Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<It's good that he left on his own terms... Not that it is good, it's just that it is good that he was not forced out.>> He didn't leave on his own terms. He was forced out. Those are the facts.
Originally Posted By mickeyboy43 i just have a quick, un-related question for spirit? how do you know this stuff? do you work with disney?
Originally Posted By danyoung >Wish I could word things so people read them the way I meant them.< If I may suggest a strategy - when you post a humorous or sarcastic message, and you don't include a smiley, then it will quite often get taken at face value. There are so many people posting online. And if you don't know ahead of time the tone of writing that someone will take, like say Spirit of '74 or TDLFAN, then it's just impossible to decide whether you're just joshing or not. I've done my share of silly sarcastic comments, and have been chagrined to find that someone took me literally (which tends to make me look kinda stupid as an end result!), so I'm trying to speak much more directly now. Unless, that is, I do the thing.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA Good information here, thanks friends. EPCOT is one of the most unusual theme parks in the Disney stateside parks. Hope they can resusitate it. And by they way, when I read Brad Rex I think of Duncan Sheik.
Originally Posted By hopemax > As to Brad's replacement, I've been told who it is but I am not currently at liberty to say only that he is someone with lots of parks experience (Brad had ZERO before being annointed Epcot VP) and is well-respected. The info may already be out there, but since I'm writing from across the pond, I feel safer with less said. The Disney Blog posted that the new guy is Jim McPhee.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<i just have a quick, un-related question for spirit? how do you know this stuff? do you work with disney?>> Actually, that isn't unrelated at all. Let's just say I have my sources ...
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<EPCOT is one of the most unusual theme parks in the Disney stateside parks. Hope they can resusitate it.>> At least there's hope now. Jim is someone well respected by CMs and he is a parks guy, not a numbers cruncher thrown into the job because Disney had become such a hostile environment for truly qualified, creative and gifted execs. I don't know if it's too late to stop the ignoring of EC's 25th anniversary or not ... but I feel like the bleeding that started under boy scout George Kalogridis in 1995 is finally coming to an end.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> I have no opinion of him as a human being, but I do have one of him as the leader of Epcot and it isn't a kind one. He was a numbers guy placed in the job when another talent-impaired exec in Karl Holz (now head -- and rear -- of Euro Disney SCA) moved on. Epcot has had a revolving door of leaders since Greg Emmer (No. 2 in Anaheim now) left the position in 1995. Each subsequent leader destroyed a bit more of what made the original EPCOT Center such an amazing place. << Now I don't know how it works at Disney, so do you mean that the V.P. of the park decides the direction in which a park goes. I know a lot of people really liked the old E.P.C.O.T. Center, but a lot of people found it very boring. I can't really comment because I never went to the old Epcot. I do know that it has improved over the last 10 years in my opinion. It's still my favorite park as it was 10 years ago.
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 Thanks Danyoung in #23. I've gotten so frustrated sometimes at reactions to what I've written, and I haven't always taken the correct meaning on the first try, from what others write.
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 #30, too hard when you think you can please everyone at the same time. People who wanted more thrills walked out during the old Tiki Bird show, but lots of people don't like the jazzed up new show. So which one is better?
Originally Posted By Skellington88 I just hope this new guy respects the history and legacy of Epcot Center and brings back the full name (Epcot Center) on park maps, merchandise, etc. Most people still think the full name of the park is Epcot Center anyway. "Epcot" was more of a nickname.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA I actually like EPCOT Center [all caps, please]. I know, I know, the park isn't the 'Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow' -- but it's a salute to the spirit of that concept.
Originally Posted By mickeyboy43 lol... nanny mcphee. i think Disney's original concept was for it to be like a Utopia as described during the Enlightenment. Epcot is more of a park now than the original concept and is more generally accepted i think as a high tech Disney park with a World Showcase than an Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow. This is also the place that i believe will bethe area of thrills in the future with new roller coasters for thrill seekers that Disney is lacking in. While i am ok with Disney being family oriented w/no huge roller coasters, it loses the general attraction of teens and many people. WHose bright idea was it to sell alcoholic beverages and cigarettes on Disney property?
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA <WHose bright idea was it to sell alcoholic beverages and cigarettes on Disney property?> Walt Disney? I think alcohol in the non-Magic Kingdom parks is okay. Heck, how hammered can you get at $6.20 for a cup of beer?
Originally Posted By danyoung >WHose bright idea was it to sell alcoholic beverages and cigarettes on Disney property?< I don't need the cigarettes, but I sure love the alcohol!
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 The fruity alcoholic drinks are essential in the heat and humidity. But who came up with the idea for those yard-long glasses of beer people walk around with? I don't want some jerk bumping into me while they're carrying one of those things.
Originally Posted By mickeyboy43 alcohol should only be permitted in adultish areas if at all. i mean, youre gonna find kids in all areas and is it really necesary for kids to see random people drunk as a skunk when theyre at disney world. anyone under the influence is a different person and will always do stuff that they would not normally do if not under the influence. And if it interests anyone, alcohol actually removes water from your cells thus making you even thirstier. so little fruity alcoholic beverages arent needed on a hot summer day. No offense to anyone. Lol, i sound like such a nerd.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA <i mean, youre gonna find kids in all areas and is it really necesary for kids to see random people drunk as a skunk when theyre at disney world.> I've never seen anyone intoxicated at a Disney park.
