Originally Posted By jasmine7 OMG. . . all I'm going to say is that is an evil, EVIL way to end an episode!
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Oh, that was one thing I most definitely did see coming; which doesn't mean it was any less tense.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Oh, and did anyone notice that when Jesse is on the phone taunting Walt while he speeds out into the desert, that Jesse calls him "Walt" rather than "Mr. White" for the first time ever? Symbolizing both his loss of respect (cemented by the spit later), and that the power positions have flipped.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 I'm going to have to do a rewatch again because I missed that. I knew something was going to happen last night, but I was thinking we'd hear a gunshot and then credits.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 And was anyone else creeped out when Walt paid a visit to Andrea and Brock?
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Oh yeah. But basically all Walt's plans this week were stymied by his ignorance of the crucial fact that Hank and Jesse were working together. Doesn't matter how smart you are; if you're ignorant of something that crucial, things are not going to go according to plan. As for the ending, I'm trying to see how Hank and/or Jesse survives this. Gilligan knows we've all seen similar situations before, and the call to Marie makes us think "Call her later! Get out of there! Uncle Jack is coming!" and of course the final "I love you" could be his final words... but because that's such a cliche, maybe it's a feint. I want Hank to live, but it's hard to see him (or Gomie) surviving, considering they're facing a greater number of guys, with superior firepower. I want Jesse to live even more than I want Hank to live... I guess he could make a mad escape in the car - the gang has missed so many shots already I could certainly buy them missing a moving target, and they'd be pinned down by Hank/Gomie's fire - so there's that. But I don't know how Hank lives, unless... just go with me here... They've made an awful lot of noise with this shootout, perhaps enough for someone on the reservation to hear and report. With all the shoutouts to classic Westerns Gilligan has made, how delicious an inversion of Westerns would it be if the Tribal police came... the Indians (!) serving as the "cavalry" saving the day (or at least creating enough confusion for the principals to escape.) Probably won't happen - but it WOULD be a wonderful inversion of classic Westerns.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://m.imgur.com/gallery/zk5GSbI">http://m.imgur.com/gallery/zk5GSbI</a> It just wouldn't have been the same
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 Better Call Saul is going forward <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2013/09/m-breaking-bad-spinoff-better-caul-saul-is-officially-going-forward.html">http://blog.zap2it.com/fromins...ard.html</a>
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 After this season I wonder if tv should just stop. I mean it's never going to get any better
Originally Posted By jasmine7 Absolutely insane. I've still got a tension headache from it nearly 5 hours later.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan Wow. wow. wow. A painful episode all the way around. Starting off with the flashback of the "good ol' days" really made what followed pack an even worse punch. In reading some of the recaps, I am astonished that so many people seem confused at Walt's intentions during the phone call to Skyler. Obviously, he was trying to save her from prison by leaving a long confession/rant deflecting any responsibility she might have had in his life of crime. How any longtime viewer could be confused by that surprises me.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>After this season I wonder if tv should just stop. I mean it's never going to get any better<< Right? I said last night, jeeze, even the baby deserves an Emmy for this episode!
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 It took me about 10-15 seconds into the phone call to realize what Walt was doing.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <It took me about 10-15 seconds into the phone call to realize what Walt was doing. > That's good writing, actually, because it also took Skylar a while to realize it. What was amazing about that rant of Walter's on the phone was that it was simultaneously 1). Walter absolving Skylar of responsibility for the sake of the police he knew were listening (note he destroyed his phone as soon as the call was over), saying she didn't know what we was doing, and threatening her such that she could later claim that anything she did, she did under duress (which was at least sometimes true, after all); 2). Walter/Heisenberg saying terrible things to her that were always bubbling just under the surface in Walt, in a particularly nasty way... yes, he did it partly for her benefit, and yet they ALSO came from a disgustingly real place, as he's always looking for someone to blame other than himself when things go wrong; 3). a rebuke to the "Skylar-haters" out there in the fanbase who see Skylar as nothing but a big emasculating buzzkill of a woman... by making it so brutally ugly and making it clear that Walt was lying, it was essentially an "in your face" to the Skylar haters out there - letting them see what such hate really looked like. That it was all three simultaneously was just great writing. And of course Cranston nailed the contradictions.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan Can't believe there's only two more episodes of this great show left. Now that Walt has taken off for a new identity in the minivan, we know that he will face some final confrontation, I'm guessing with Jesse (if he can manage to escape Todd's clutches. Any hope that anyone gets out of this show happier than they began was gone after last night. And in a show that has featured a large assortment of deranged psychos, boy-next-door Todd has quickly becoming one of the creepiest and most unsettling of all.
Originally Posted By leobloom >> yes, he did it partly for her benefit, and yet they ALSO came from a disgustingly real place, as he's always looking for someone to blame other than himself when things go wrong << This is what made the scene so interesting, I thought. He's quite obviously not ONLY doing it to absolve Skyler from blame. It was a highlight in an episode of highlights. I have a hard time believing the last two eps will top this one. But if any show can, it'll be BB.
