Originally Posted By ecdc Jesse. Oh man. That was heart wrenching. Hand Aaron Paul the Emmy next year, please.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Nice to see Anna Gunn get some Emmy love, and of course to see the show itself finally get the nod. Surprised that neither Paul nor Banks won, but maybe they split the vote? (Of course, Paul won last year despite the also-great Esposito being there... all I can say is Canavale must have been awfully good.) Then I watched this week's ep.. I sooooo wanted Jesse to escape, though I knew if he did he'd have scooped up Brock and Andrea and gotten the hell out of Albq, and he needs to be there next week. But man. Rip my heart out, why don't you? And how creepy was the baby scene? Combined with killing Andrea - if there's anyone who could get me to root for Walt even a little now it's him going up against those psycho, um, ducks as Jesse put it. Well, that plus Cranston's performance (and how did HE not win last night? I've seen Newsroom, and Daniels is a fine actor, and Cranston's won before... but come on). Even after everything Walt has done, he still made you feel for him, especially when he paid the vacuum cleaner guy to stay just a little while longer with him. He's essentially already in prison, and solitary at that. And then when Flinn went off on him (deservedly) and thwarted the one thing he thought he could still do, and shattered his thoughts about any of this really being about his family... just start polishing next year's Emmy for Cranston now.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 <<Then I watched this week's ep.. I sooooo wanted Jesse to escape, though I knew if he did he'd have scooped up Brock and Andrea and gotten the hell out of Albq, and he needs to be there next week. But man. Rip my heart out, why don't you?>> That may have been the most cold and brutal killing the show has ever done. Of course it sets up another spin-off. Brock grows up to exact revenge for his mother's death in Brocking Bad
Originally Posted By Mr X Got my hands on an advanced copy of the episode from some folks down at AMCJapan in Ginza... *spoilers* Jesse, just as he's about to bring the hammer down on his former mentor in the sickest way possible—wakes up and finds himself in Mr. White's high school chemistry class, where he'd been all along. *end spoilers*
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Originally Posted By Dabob2 Oh - one more BB hand that I wanted to win an Emmy last night but didn't - Michelle MacLaren for directing "Gliding Over All," the half-season finale with the two fantastic montages: the prison killing montage and the "Crystal Blue Persuasion" odyssey of meth from lab-to-Lydia-to-Madrigal-to-Prague and money making the trip in reverse... both were terrific, as was the episode as a whole (which ended, of course, with the big reveal to Hank.) MacLaren has been my favorite director on a show that uses several of the best in the biz.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 I would think she would be nominated for To'Haijee but then she's going up against Rian Johnston(Johnson) for Ozymandias. Speaking of Johnston(Johnson) he directed Looper which is a fantastic film highly recommended.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 <<I've seen Newsroom, and Daniels is a fine actor, and Cranston's won before... but come on). >> Maybe the ricin is for Daniels.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>Maybe the ricin is for Daniels.<< LOL! >>he directed Looper which is a fantastic film highly recommended<< Totally agree. Last night's episode was just sad all the way around. I'm hoping Jack and his goons are finished off this week, and creepy Todd, too. I was elated when Jesse broke free momentarily, and shocked at the outcome. Robert Forster was great as the vacuum guy, and I think he had the line of the evening when Walt asked him if he would see that the barrel of money got to Walt's family after he dies. "If I said yes, would you believe me?"
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 Now that a few months have passed on the show I have to ask, is Huell still sitting in the room? That would be great if that's the final shot of the show, like the guy in the taxi in Airplane.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <Robert Forster was great as the vacuum guy, and I think he had the line of the evening when Walt asked him if he would see that the barrel of money got to Walt's family after he dies. "If I said yes, would you believe me?"> An important line, I think, because Walt said "no." At that point he had finally stopped deluding himself that he could be a help to his family in any way. Of course, Walt loves deluding himself, and the delusion came back when he thought he had a brilliant idea about sending money to Flynn via Lewis, but that delusion was shattered in the most unmistakable form possible with the phone call. At that point, he really had no delusions of family left, and was ready to turn himself in. Until he saw Gretchen and Elliot belittling his accomplishments... and if Walt can't delude himself about doing everything for his family any more, Heisenberg can still make sure we "remember his name" if he goes out guns blazing. Some people online are speculating that the M60 is meant for Gretchen and Elliot - which makes no sense. If he wanted to kill them, you wouldn't choose something so heavy and unwieldy that a healthy man has trouble handling it - and it would be like killing a squirrel with a grenade launcher. A simple, concealable handgun would take care of those two, if that's what he wanted. Uncle Jack and his gang, on the other hand... if you're going to take them on solo, you need superior firepower. So is the ricin for G&E? I still think that's for Lydia's tea (and maybe for Todd, if he creepily finishes her tea after she leaves). I'm still hoping Jesse walks away. Obviously not unscathed, but perhaps can find some redemption if he takes care of Brock, for instance. I'm hoping Walt gives the ricin to Lydia, Todd drinks it too (very Romeo and Juliet!), then Walt shoots up the compound. In the fight, Jesse gets away. Perhaps there's a final confrontation between the two - even a wordless one - and Walt could kill him but in a final act of humanity lets him go. Hardly makes up for everything, but at least there's that. Then Walt blows up the Nazis AND himself with...science! Of course, "whatever you think is gonna happen, the exact complete opposite is gonna happen."
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Oh - and it just occurred to me that if Walt is completely Heisenberg now, heading back to settle scores without even a pretense of some other motivation, then Walter White did actually "die," just as Flynn urged him to do.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 I didn't see this in any of the recaps I read, but did anyone notice the sort or half smile Todd had when the subject of Drew Sharp came up in the video. It was creepy, but it was almost like he knew his Uncle would be proud of him. I either read this or heard this on a podcast that was recapping the show. But they were saying while Walt's family has been crumbling, Jessie doesn't really have one, Uncle Jack, Todd and the rest are the closest thing the show has to a stable family, no matter how horrible they are.
Originally Posted By ecdc I love that Walt's biggest obstacle is his ego. He gives up. He's ready to throw in the towel. And then he sees Gretchen on television. It's unbelievable what his wounded pride will cause him to do.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan Oh - and it just occurred to me that if Walt is completely Heisenberg now, heading back to settle scores without even a pretense of some other motivation, then Walter White did actually "die," just as Flynn urged him to do.<< Except that in the flash-forwards, we saw him do Skyler's birthday bacon number thing at Denny's. Walt's in there somewhere, not completely Heisenberg. I know you all will know what that paragraph meant, but think of somebody just wandering in to read it if they'd never seen the show. LOL!
Originally Posted By Dabob2 No, no, no... Walt got SOY bacon from Skylar. Heisenberg gets REAL bacon. That's how you know the transformation is complete. But seriously, one of the things the show has done so well is show the fight between Walt and Heisenberg for his soul - he's rarely been all one and none of the other, and that's the tension.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 It's been interesting to see how universally praised this final season has been of BB compared to the final season of Dexter (a show I watched for two seasons then left). Apparently all that BB has done right this season up until now, Dexter has done the complete opposite, including last nights finale where people are saying it ruined the entire series. Vince Gilligan and Co haven't steered us wrong and I don't expect them to start.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***then Walter White did actually "die," just as Flynn urged him to do*** Easy there, Obi-Wan. "Heisenberg is more machine now than man, twisted and evil."
