Originally Posted By Sara Tonin All I can say is that opinions are like..well you know, and some people have REALLY big opinions...
Originally Posted By Sara Tonin If I were you I would claim it...just keep telling people about your oh so exclusive new game...glof...and about the nets, balls and wickets...we'll never know the difference...as far as we know here in the states that stick ball game they say is played in UK is real...we don't know!...is it real or did you guy make it up?
Originally Posted By dshyates "There seems to be no end to what sports fans will accept and move past." Or conservatives. They keep re-electing David Vitter, have given a pass to Mark Sanford, and rever Newt. All the while being beside themselves that Bubba got a bj. That said I think what Tiger needs to do is go on Oprah, say hell yeah I did 'em. It was freakin' awesome, then do the slap-ass pony dance around the stage.
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy << That said I think what Tiger needs to do is go on Oprah, say hell yeah I did 'em. It was freakin' awesome, then do the slap-ass pony dance around the stage. >> Or he can do like Tom Cruise and make his image worse with a bizarre Oprah appearance.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper They are murderers, wife beaters, thiefs, rapists, etc playing in professional sports leagues. Tiger, while quite the cheater, hurt his wife and his family. That is the total extent of the suffering. While I don't admire that there is a heck of a lot of other BAD stuff happening with celebrities and politicians.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "That said I think what Tiger needs to do is go on Oprah, say hell yeah I did 'em. It was freakin' awesome, then do the slap-ass pony dance around the stage." This is funny, but I'll tell you what- I'd have a lot more respect for him if he were this honest. Now, that still doesn't begin to assuage the hurt he's brought on his wife and family, matter of fact it would probably make it worse, but at least it wouldn't be some P.R. babble.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< And this is noteworthy because?????? >>> Great question, DAR. It's VERY noteworthy because it provides a great example of all that's wrong with Fox News and much of the rest of the noise machine. In this situation, we have a reporter for Fox News saying on-air that Tiger's religion isn't sufficient to get him out of his current situation, but Christianity is. In the additional clips from Fox News that we see in the OP's link, we also see them denigrating two other major world religions on-air. The pattern on Fox is unmistakable: promote Christianity, and denigrate other religions, and do so in a somewhat active manner. Someone else mentioned the 700 Club. If this were on the 700 Club News Hour, then that would be a different matter - you'd know what you were getting beforehand, and it would be clearly identified. Instead, what we have here is news that is repeatedly (incessantly?) self-identified as "fair and balanced" yet is anything but. Even that wouldn't be so bad, if it were not for the millions of people that watch it AND actually believe they're getting a "fair and balanced", neutral presentation of the news. We see people here on WE claim this all the time. And then we get the bonus of the "Oh look at us Christians, and how put upon we are in America" being presented by the very people responsible for pushing the Christian agenda and actively making fun of other religions on a national network.
Originally Posted By DAR <<And then we get the bonus of the "Oh look at us Christians, and how put upon we are in America" being presented by the very people responsible for pushing the Christian agenda and actively making fun of other religions on a national network.>> Well Christians do get put upon, because of the fundamentalist movement, there's this idea of lumping us all in one group so we must all be the same. Believe it or not we're not all ranting and raving lunatics.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>Believe it or not we're not all ranting and raving lunatics.<< And yet, despite that, most of you spend more time denouncing atheists than you do denouncing those people that make you look so bad. If you don't want to be lumped in, stand up and be heard.
Originally Posted By DAR I've never once denounced an atheist, you believe what you want to believe in. Perhaps this song will help <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbyFbJFjhxk" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...FbJFjhxk</a>
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< Well Christians do get put upon, because of the fundamentalist movement, there's this idea of lumping us all in one group so we must all be the same. Believe it or not we're not all ranting and raving lunatics. >>> I'm certainly not the one doing the lumping - I hope you realize that. My paraphrased quote at the end of #32 was meant to convey the message promoted from the perspective of many fundamental Christians, when they often take what is very narrow opposition to their extremism, stridency, and fundamentalism and portray it as if it's a reaction against Christianity as a whole, which in most cases it's not. But in doing so, they are able to escape two truths at the same time: 1) the whole world, or even mainstream America, or even the "mainstream media" isn't actually against Christianity or religion as a whole, and 2) that the Fundamentalists really do represent a very extreme version of their faith that is shared with nowhere near the majority of Christians.
Originally Posted By Princessjenn5795 "And yet, despite that, most of you spend more time denouncing atheists than you do denouncing those people that make you look so bad. If you don't want to be lumped in, stand up and be heard." Actually, there are a lot of us that do not denounce anyone based on their beliefs alone and do denounce all of the crazy, extremist stuff that is carried out in the name of our religion. The crazies just get more media coverage. Superdry, I totally agree with your post #37.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan Something I learned that I did not know before this all came up. Brit Hume's son committed suicide in the 1990s. It was during that time that he turned to his faith for comfort and feels it is what got him through. With that in mind, and since it was during an opinion-driven segment of the show, I don't think it was misleading or shading the news or anything like that for Hume to express his opinion on the matter. I have no reason to doubt that he, in all sincerity, feels that Woods turning to Christ might offer him the peace and ability to move on the Hume found following the death of his son. Of course, had Hume chosen to say "I think he should turn to his faith to get through this" rather than saying that Christianity is better suited to help him than Buddahism is, few would have batted an eye. The offense here isn't between religious people and atheists, but over a Christian saying openly that his religion is better suited than another to help here.
Originally Posted By mele For the most part, I think that's true, 2oony, but I still do not think it was appropriate to say something like that on any sort of news program, especially one that is supposedly "Fair & Balanced". There's a time and a place to "witness" and it shouldn't ever be on a news network.
