Originally Posted By jonvn I know someone who met him. Said very very much the same thing as in post 18. It's really too bad about Blair, but I think most people think that he got screwed over by Bush, but that he should have known better. That's the sense I have gotten.
Originally Posted By DAR <<By the way, Denmark and Lithuania are also removing their troops>> And they deserve a thank you for helping out too.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder So, awfully nice of Douglas to come back here and admit he was mistaken. It takes a big person to do that.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>So, awfully nice of Douglas to come back here and admit he was mistaken.<< Maybe he's at a Joseph McCarthy fan club meeting...
Originally Posted By ecdc ^^^^^^Ok, so I posted that and immediately regretted it. I actually started hitting the "stop" button while it was still loading. Sorry Douglas, that was over the line.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<Sorry Douglas, that was over the line.>> It certainly was!! The guy's been dead for 50 years now... why dis a dead man? ;-) just kidding...
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <I said "according to CNN.com" and your big response was "not quite." No, it really was according to CNN.> I'm not sure why this is so hard for you to understand. There's a difference between CNN saying, "X said Y", and CNN saying, "Z is reporting X said Y". In the story you linked to, CNN was reporting what British news outlets were reporting, they were not reporting it themselves. You chose to see my "not quite" comments as being partisan; it wasn't. I don't really care which side is doing the speculation and the leaking; I don't care for any of it. Inevitably, when there are leaks before such announcements, important points are left out - i.e. the announcement is "spun".
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "You chose to see my "not quite" comments as being partisan; it wasn't." ALL of your comments are partisan. Every.single.last.one.of.them. To deny that is to insult anyone who reads this board.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh Oops. That last post was supposed to say "Thanks for posting your usual nonsense." I think Jon and Still are having a contest to see who can insult me the most. Meanwhile, I found this column to be somewhat enlightening, and also humorous. But maybe that's just me being partisan, as always. <a href="http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0" target="_blank">http://www.theaustralian.news. com.au/story/0</a>,20867,21269819-7583,00.html
Originally Posted By jonvn "I think Jon and Still are having a contest to see who can insult me the most." There is no contest. You simply are a dishonest person and a troll on this board.
Originally Posted By jonvn And yet you respond because obviously it does. So, you're lying so more. What a surprise.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh No, I respond because I don't believe in letting a falsehood go unchallenged. You can demonize me all you want, but if you say something I don't agree with, I'm going to let people know.
Originally Posted By ElKay I may not agree totally what jonvn argues about, but I can understand where he's coming from. However, Dougie, just regurgitates empty necon rhetoric without making connections to the discussion at hand. At least Dougie has progressed past the "No it's not" and "You're wrong" stage of argument of a year or more ago, but not by much
Originally Posted By jonvn "I don't believe in letting a falsehood go unchallenged. " There were not any, except the ones you made. You can't tell the truth. Now you are trying to twist it back. Liar. Nothing but a liar, and everyone on this board knows it. Who do you think you're fooling?
Originally Posted By jonvn "Dougie, just regurgitates empty necon rhetoric without making connections to the discussion at hand." Well, not entirely. He also fabricates out of whole cloth things people supposedly have had to say here. Or twists things out of all bounds so that the truth is completely gone. In other words, he's dishonest. That's the big picture.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <However, Dougie, just regurgitates empty necon rhetoric without making connections to the discussion at hand.> Just because you don't understand the connections doesn't mean they are not there. <At least Dougie has progressed past the "No it's not" and "You're wrong" stage of argument of a year or more ago, but not by much> My "stage of argument" has not changed. If you make a statement that I feel cannot be supported by evidence, then I'll tell you that it's wrong. If I have the time and energy to explain why, then I'll do so. Otherwise I won't.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <There were not any, except the ones you made.> Yes, there were. They were the ones you made. <Nothing but a liar, and everyone on this board knows it.> You and a handful of liberals who dislike my opinions are hardly "everyone", and I really don't care what you think you "know". You are wrong, and I'm going to continue telling you, no matter how often you insult me. You can either continue wasting bandwidth with your insults, or you stop and begin engaging in honest debate and discussion. I'll be waiting.
Originally Posted By ElKay Never-the-less, back on topic. The Brits have begun to bug off in Iraq by making it know that by next year if things in their sector doesn't go down the toilet they will be out in about a year. So exactly if the Brits are our staunchest compadres, they can declare victory in their sector and announce a timetable to pull out? Likewise with our other members of the "coallition of the dupped" why are they rapidly pulling out instead of surging into Baghdad or other hotspots freeing up our troops to pass out soccer balls? Shouldn't our Veep Cheney accuse our erstwhile allies of encouraging the strategy of our enemies. If Cheney gets away with calling Dems those sorts of things why not say the same about foreigners who actually cut and run?
