Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Did we? I don't think so. You kept sidetracking the discussions though. Kinda like you're doing right now. lol.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Is there a way to find a person's very first post on LP? OK, sorry folks. I guess I'm just as guilty as Constance.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance Don't blame yourself, Hans. I'm a horrible influence on you. You do just fine till I sidetrack you. And if there is a way to do that, I don't want to know what mine was. Talk about embarrassing.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt <a href="http://mb.laughingplace.com/MsgBoard-T-120333-P-1.asp" target="_blank">http://mb.laughingplace.com/Ms...-P-1.asp</a>
Originally Posted By DlandDug Ahem. Back ON TOPIC... >>I was referring to the show that preceded it, actually. As Dug said, it was well done.<< There were three distinct shows: 1. Native American ceremony, 2. Chip 'n Dale making mischief during Native American ceremony, 3. Magic of Brother Bear. I found the first to be a bit on the earnest side, and it was very sparsely attended. There was much to mitigate its popularity. The park was DOA, the Camp Circle was scorchingly hot, and most people were unaware of its existence. It was a well done show for those who found it. The second was a Frankenstein mess that grafted a fairly silly Meet 'n Greet onto the existing experience. I was embarrassed by it (I felt sorry for the very fine story tellers who had been hired and trained to perform the original show), but it did seem to pull in more kids. Magic of Brother Bear was a pretty consistent hit. Of course, they added shade to the Camp Circle and built a big marquee outside the entrance to the Redwood Creek Challenge Trail. It would be hard to miss the massive wood carved (real wood carved) characters, as well as the "stars," Koda and Kenai themselves, who did Meet 'n Greets at the entrance as well.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Well, I was referring to the first one. It was sparsely attended, but I didn't care. The weather was lovely. And the show was really nice.
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>And the show was really nice.<< I agree. The story tellers they hired were particularly good, and the material was was wonderful-- authentic Native American folk tales and legends. When I saw it, the kids were quietly enthralled. But today everything needs to be energetic and FUNNNNNN!
Originally Posted By Dabob2 I know. It's a shame, really. I'm hoping that after the 2012 changes, DCA (and DL for that matter) adds some more "quiet gems" like this that many people didn't even realize it had in the first place. Those of us who appreciate such things will find them.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA <-- Seasons of the Vine, Golden Dreams the Farm exibits - even the hated Superstar Limo were all nice, B or C 'catch your breath' types of diversions. Unfortunately, they were forced to become headliner attractions because DCA was so thin on anything. As part of a better design plan, with a more balanced offereing of rides, attractions and. shows - maybe some of them would have survived.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA I'm amazed that 'Mulholland Madness' survived - gets a fresh coat of paint and a 'Goofy' make-over and everyones fallen in love with it. It's like the make-over from 'Superstar Limo' to 'Monsters, Inc' -- whatever and finally -- "Eureka!" -- one of the best Disney parades I've ever seen -- it was gone and over in six months -- ridiculous.
Originally Posted By oodelally when was the last time that disney made up a new character or made an attraction that wasnt built around a character? i was talking with my mother about the opening of disneyland and back then we couldnt remember one attraction that was built with a character in mind. it was about which land it was in. i wish i could challenge disney to make a truly original attraction again
Originally Posted By lesmisfan well there was fantasyland which was built entirely around disney characters. then in frontierland they used davey crockett to a bit.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Yeah, character and film based attractions have been there from the start, but in recent years that's all they seem to do. "when was the last time that disney made up a new character or made an attraction that wasnt built around a character?" Good question. It's almost strange to think that at one time the parks were actually creating more original characters than the studio was. Think about it - from the time that WDW opened to around the time of Captain Eo there were dozens of characters and storylines created exclusively for the parks.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros The Yeti in Everest is probably the closest that Disney's come to creating an original character for an attraction in a long time. Yes, it's based in existing myth and legend, but the work that went into its backstory is at least the same as an entirely new character. Califia (the spirit of California) in Golden Dreams was also an original creation. And the agent from Superstar Limo was an entirely original creation, and from my understanding, a huge part of why the attraction closed so quickly. The host of the Disney Junior Live show (Casey) is a new character, but basically just the host of a compillation show, so there's no character development of any sort. TDS's Tower of Terror also has a completely revamped backstory, eliminating the Twilight Zone theme. Instead, they have a story of eccentric billioniare Harrison Hightower (get it?) and his collection from around the world, including the cursed Shriki Undu (or something like that) that causes the 'accident. Same idea behind the story, but new characters are used to tell it. There were also several other attractions based on outside stories, with Disney's interpretations, including 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, Journey to the Center of the Earth, and Sinbad. The Sinbad attraction was redone about 3-4 years ago to include a cuddly tiger sidekick, so that might count as an original character, though he was not in the original attraction. Other than that, I think we'd have to start going back pretty far, to characters like Captain EO, Captain Rex, SiR and Skippy, and Figment.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt All great observations Ferret. Don't forget about the Tom Morrow robot host from Innoventions.
