Originally Posted By TomSawyer >>Gerald Ford was the only President to have never been "elected".<< You mean other than Bush in 2000, right? <--- beats hornet's nest with a stick then runs away
Originally Posted By wahooskipper I live in Florida. I'm not in MENSA. But, I filled out my ballot just fine. People who couldn't figure it out probably shouldn't have been voting to begin with.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom <<As if a white person would ever have ANY CLUE what it's like to be on the receiving end of discrimination.>> No I don't know what its like to be black. I don't pretend I do. But I know what its like to loose half your family. Or be to told by your religion that your "evil" and going to hell. I also know what its like to live in a society that calls you "sick","crazy","a deviant". Or to live in a society that criminalizes your sexual preference with another consenting adult. The military doesn't throw you out for being black. It does throw you out on a dishonorable discharge for being gay. Have you ever had to take a polygraph test when you applied for a job and one of the questions is "are you gay". Do you realize that many police departments here in Georgia will accept you even if you have used cocaine outside of five years. But will not accept you if your gay? How about a society that uses you as a battle cry for a call to arms to pass legislation making sure that you NEVER MARRY ANOTHER CONSENTING ADULT of your choice. Despite all this most of the gay people I know have dedicated their lives to make this world a beter place for EVERYONE. Our parents must have done a damn good job of raising us. When was the last time you heard of a "pink triangle gang" knocking over a convience store or commiting someother act of criminal activity? Yes, many other people including blacks have also dedicated their lives to making this world a better place for ALL as well. To bad Bryant Gumbel isn't one of them.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom Oh I forgot, signed Ann Coulter in disguise. RT, I'm not pissed at you. But I am going to defend my statements. It doesn't matter if I'm the biggest creap out there. If I present the facts that Bryant Gumbel is a bigot. Then all anyone has to do is present the facts that prove me wrong.
Originally Posted By DlandDug Yes, it is just as INvalid to say a white person cannot comment on the experience of of a black person as it is to say that a Democrat cannot comment on the experience of a Republican. Both arguments are weak.
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder "Yes, it is just as INvalid to say a white person cannot comment on the experience of of a black person as it is to say that a Democrat cannot comment on the experience of a Republican. Both arguments are weak." You can comment all you want, I suppose, but that doesn't mean you have the first idea of what you're saying. Does this mean that you feel like you could take a trip over to Compton or Watts and tell them you know what their lives are like?
Originally Posted By wahooskipper I would argue that there are plenty of blacks that could go to Compton or Watts and not be able to understand what those who live there go through. Just as I can't begin to relate to the life of a Malibu, CA citizen.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA So, DlandDug, you're saying that you, yourself, have the ability to know what it's like to be black? Is that what you're saying? My brother-in-law seems to have this ability as well. How do you guys do it?
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA It would be like me saying 'I know what it's like to be gay in 2006' or 'I know what it's like to be a woman.' No, I don't. I can try, but I don't really know.
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder "So, DlandDug, you're saying that you, yourself, have the ability to know what it's like to be black?" That's what I was trying to find out. I mean, it's possible we've misread him, but I don't think so. Kinda bizarre, really.
Originally Posted By woody The main problem is the coverage itself. It doesn't show black athletes because it is U.S. biased. There are some countries with black athletes. Maybe Bryant Gumbel hasn't seen it. Blame the coverage. Blacks dominate many sports, but do they need to dominate more of them? It's ridiculous to assume it matters. Give the other races some television time.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA <Blacks dominate many sports> And that just happens by chance or something? <but do they need to dominate more of them?> If they're talented enough to do so, I guess the answer is yes. Do they 'need' to? That's a silly question. <Give the other races some television time.> That's nice, woody. Your true color's shining through.
Originally Posted By woody >>And that just happens by chance or something?<< How is this relevant? They already dominate many BIG sports. Baseball, Basketball, Football, Soccer, Tennis. Does it really matter? >>If they're talented enough to do so, I guess the answer is yes. Do they 'need' to? That's a silly question.<< Bryant Gumbel seems to think it matters. It is silly of him to think so. >>That's nice, woody. Your true color's shining through.<< What color is that? Black isn't the only important color here. Did anyone notice the rise of China in the games?
Originally Posted By cape cod joe Post 30---Jim--How does he do it? If Ddug immersed himself in the black culture for years on end; if he worked in such radical black groups as the Black Panthers; if he had the incredible sensitivity to project himself into another's person skin color i.e "Black Lke Me" the novel by John Howard Griffin where he actualy dyed his skin color and traveled around the south to experience what it was like being Black------It is PROBABLE he could relate to being Black. To KT---------If you had a relative who was gay; if you had roomates in college who were gay; if you hung out in 100's of gay bars in many major cities in the U.S. for the better part of a decade--yes you could definitely feel the PAIN, and I do mean pain of being gay in America. Not to pick on trip but he admitted not even knowing KT was gay! I knew in less than a week before he actually STATED it in a post. If you have that level of non-cognizance about a particular "sub culture" then of course you couldn't understand what it's like to be gay. It's kinda like in the movie "Men In Black" where no one saw the aliens except the men in black.
Originally Posted By cape cod joe To STPH--- I think you are a brilliant lawyer and thinker, but I don't think you should name call other people with the "bizarre" type epithets in an attempt to marginalize their thinking processes and heart felt posts. Other people here have modicum intelligence and feelings too.
Originally Posted By cape cod joe I don't even know who this Diandug is but this same tactic has been done to me and it is mean-spirited. Note how I didn't say Non- Christina because I was redded out this morning and called weird for mentioning Christian.
