Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Not Radiator Springs Racers, but the tire ride decor (not the ride itself), yes.
Originally Posted By yamabuki I guess I shouldn't remind you that TSPL will be opening at Hong Kong as well..! It seems though that you've made up your mind on attractions you know little about, as well as rides that haven't even opened yet. If you have your own personal preference for HK, that's fine.. but no reason to put down the quality and amount of work going into the Anaheim parks.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Funny, after following concept art to development my whole life, and as career past as a programme manager, I have found most of the attractions turn out as predicted. I am not putting down Carsland, I said I was cautious. I also said I was looking forward to Radiator Spring Racer. I can put down things, I don't think I have. I will say TSPL is a huge mistake, and is crap use of money. I will say that Flik's Fun Faire was a missed opportunity full of attractions only the under 7's enjoy. Or that Goofy's sky School is lipstick on a pig, and SSS is still a rubbish attraction, and even more carny now than when DCA opened. Or that Expedition Everest was a huge waste with virtually none of the effects working. Never once did I put down Carsland. I simply said I was worried. Big difference.
Originally Posted By yamabuki So anyway, going back to the original topic - Here's another set of blueprints for Buena Vista St. This one is interesting because it compares and contrasts the old entrance vs the new. The former Sunshine Plaza is highlighted in pink over the new blueprints <a href="http://www.mouseinfo.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=39530&original=1" target="_blank">http://www.mouseinfo.com/galle...iginal=1</a>
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I need to chime in here and say that I also have the same fears about Carsland (still a dumb name) as Dave. While the whole project does seem to be much more grand than the other attempts recently, I fear that the details could take it in the wrong direction. I'm expecting that they will have a couple toony things in it, but I really hope that they use their restraint (yah, right) and keep it as realistic as possible. That drawing of the two areas superimposed on one another is a pretty good comparison. It does look like the BVS drawing is an older one, since it shows the entrance turnstyles in the same spot at the current ones. While I suspect that in general it will still be pretty close, it's not the most current design. It's kind of funny to see how much empty space was in the actual plaza area, and how little the actual shapes of the rest of the street will change.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Never once did I put down Carsland. I simply said I was worried. Big difference." Thanks for the posts Dave. I have to agree with Yamabuki that (based on what I can tell) Carsland will be a completely different experience than the one tiny corner of DSP devoted to the film Cars. The scale of the DCA project is impressive - stretching all the way from Bugs 3D to the Katella edge of the property. The new things you mentioned coming to HKDL look cool, and everyone has their preferences, but I certainly don't think there is any indication that Carsland and what's at DSP will have much if anything in common.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo I really hope you are right. The rock work is looking mighty fine. But it will be interesting to see the detail of the dark ride scenes.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Here's another set of blueprints for Buena Vista St. This one is interesting because it compares and contrasts the old entrance vs the new." Interesting. Did you see this? <a href="http://www.mouseinfo.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=39520&original=1&c=" target="_blank">http://www.mouseinfo.com/galle...nal=1&c=</a> Carsland is massive.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Yes it is, and you would expect it to be given the space needed for the roadway (Test Track is also massive, but largely hidden from main guest view, and the scale of Epcot somewhat dwarves it.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt That's true, but as you said much of Test Track isn't incorporated into the themed environment that it sits in, nor does it have much design detail. With the exception of the indoor section the entire raceway at DCA will be viewable to guests in Carsland. I'm bothered the character aspect of this project, but I have to say that the design and engineering of this new land is impressive.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Absolutely agree on that note. I hope they knock it out of the park, and it doesn't become another Mission Space/Expedition Everest. Though the track record at DL is far better than WDW and DLP, it helps that Glendale is not too far away.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt From what I hear TDLR does a pretty good job of maintaining high show standards. I know that DLP has financial problems, so in that respect I'm willing to cut it some slack. I don't know what WDW's problem is.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros From that image, it looks like there will be an outdoor segment that I didn't know about before. Immediately to the right of the parade barn (long skinny white roof on the left side), there's a thin piece of track shaped like a backward S. From the width of it, it appears that this will be during the 'darkride' portion of the ride, where there is only one track. The parallel tracks are only for the racing portion at the end, so it appears like this part will be moving relatively slow. It also looks like it might be inspired by Lightning's scenic drive with Sally through the hills, past the waterfall. I don't know if there are plans for a waterfall here, but that scene is one of my favorite parts of the film, so I'm excited that it might be included in the park!
Originally Posted By yamabuki Yes, there will be a waterfall and bridge. The cars won't travel through the actual bridge, but will pass underneath it next to the waterfall. The track you mentioned in your post comes right before the cars enter the showbuilding, the 'tranquil' portion of the outdoor track.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "The cars won't travel through the actual bridge, but will pass underneath it next to the waterfall." What or who will travel over the bridge?
Originally Posted By DlandDug The bridge is scenic. The short section of curved track actually travels up the side of the mountain before you enter the show building.
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>It does look like the BVS drawing is an older one, since it shows the entrance turnstyles in the same spot at the current ones.<< Look again. The new turnstiles are considerably north of the original. The originals are arranged in a fairly tight curve. The broader curve that the new turnstiles is superimposed over are the CALIFORNIA letters. Looks like some of the Magical Memory tiles will be sacrificed. I hope they move them into a new position.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Does anyone know what will happen to the service road the now separates Carsland from the rest of the park? I assume that it will be removed, right?
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I would guess that it will remain in place, but will have crosspoints for access to Carsland, similar to the gate on Big Thunder Trail near the Fantasyland bathrooms. I suspect that it will be open to guests during the day, but that they might want to be able to use that route for traffic when the park is closed. On a semi-related note, does any body know what the final parade route will be? I've heard all sorts of varieties, including starting by the Carthay Circle, starting in Hollywood Pictures Backlot near TOT, ending by the factories, ending by the swings, and going through Carsland. It was already a really long parade route, so I don't see them adding much to it (like all of HPB), but the new light poles look like they could also hold show lighting, in addition to the regular atmosphere lighting.
