Originally Posted By Beaumandy <<Sorry, but this means absolutely nothing as far as persuading me that Jr. can reason or is a profound thinker.>> Lets see here.... Bush is the most powerful man in the world. He was elected twice. He has common sense that elite liberals will never have, his wife is hot and he is not molesting interns. I find it hillarious that people who can barely eek out a living and have accomplished very little in life because they are so negative little, can sit back and take shots at the president, a man who has accomplised more than anyone in the entire world by becoming president. I will put Bush up against ANYONE who slams him in the life accomplishnent contest. Seems to me Bush handed Kerry his A$$ in the debates also. How can such a " dumb" guy get elected not only once, but twice.... all while the liberal morons in the media make fun of them as they have to borrow money from their mothers for cab fare. Kerry has been freeloading his entire life, Teddy Kennedy has had money since birth, yet these losers are not president?? They must be REAL stupid to only be Senators.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy Hey mele, Ginsberg fell asleep. Where is this a lie or a distortion? Was she actually awake during the hearing and just resting her eyes?
Originally Posted By cape cod joe Teddy did get thrown out from Harvard even with his family almost owning it so George DOES deserve credit DESPITE his family power. Coming from arguably the most powerful political family in U.S. history, he's a better man than me for taking the abuse as well as he does?
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 She wasn't saying it was a lie, or a distortion, but rather a distraction and made much bigger than it should have been.
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>>-Received a bachelor’s degree in history from Yale University in 1968.< Very flimsy supporting evidence and I see right through it. I would never use that as an indicator when assessing intellect...<< Oh brother. Talk about straining at gnats and swallowing camels... So Yale is not known for its intellectual rigor? That should be news to the 15 Nobel laureates and 15 Pulitzer Prize winners who graduated from Yale. Or the five US Presidents (including Bill Clinton, who met Hillary Rodham there) and three Vice Presidents. Or the 16 Supreme Court Justices. Or the 39 Senators (including John Kerry). Or the 22 Governors. Sheesh. Get a real argument. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Yale_University_people" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L ist_of_Yale_University_people</a>
Originally Posted By LOUDROCK <So Yale is not known for its intellectual rigor?> I doubt very much that its curriculum is as rigorous or demanding as any University of Cal. campus except UC Santa Cruz. Now, being accepted to a university like Yale may or may not impress me(it's a case by case basis). And in the case of Jr. he came from a wealthy, powerful family with a legacy. Thus, his acceptance and ultimate graduation from Yale does not in the slightest demonstrate intellectual gifting.
Originally Posted By DlandDug More Yalies... Noah Webster James Fenimore Cooper Charles Ives Larry Kramer Maya Lin Cole Porter Robert A. M. Stern Garry Trudeau Mark Rothko Eero Saarinen Tom Wolfe Naomi Wolf (Granted, she did give Al Gore all that dreadful advice, but I'd hardly blame Yale for that.) Michael Cimino Jodie Foster Paul Giamatti George Roy Hill Elia Kazan Paul Newman Gene Siskel Dick Cavett Anderson Cooper Dick Ebersol Stone Phillips Ben Stein David Hyde Pierce Tony Shalhoub Meryl Streep Oliver Stone (Unless, of course, it's all just a conspiracy...) 11 Academy Award winners and... Lewis Black!
Originally Posted By LOUDROCK Dland, enough! What are you trying to prove here? Oh I get now. Cole Porter is smart and he went to Yale. Jr. went to Yale thus Jr. is smart. You are not proving anything here.
Originally Posted By DlandDug The issue at hand is whether Yale is intellectually rigorous. The proof, as they say, is in the pudding. If anyone wants to disparage Bush's scholastic record, that's their privilege. But to dismiss Yale, and its distinguished roster of alums, is simply absurd.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy Dug, the kids were trading pins nonstop during our Disneland visit last week. Thanks for getting them going on this! Do the CM's HAVE to trade a pin when they are getting a bad deal? Beau gave this guy running the Calif. Screaming ride photo stand the most lame pin for this amazing Disneyland Logo pin... I told him he didn't have to do this but he said he was delighted to do the deal. OK, Katrina can be blamed on Bush because he wanted to kill blacks, so he used his hurrricane machine to steer it into N.O., then he blew up the levees.
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 "Beau gave this guy running the Calif. Screaming ride photo stand the most lame pin for this amazing Disneyland Logo pin... I told him he didn't have to do this but he said he was delighted to do the deal. " Yes, the CM's are not supposed to refuse a trade. They don't own the pins on the lanyard, and are just supplied with them, so they really shouldn't have to much of a personal stake in which pins they trade. So, Beau was a shrewd buisnessman and took advantage!
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 Oh, that was off topic, sorry....back to the regularly scheduled discussion.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy LOL gurgitory, there is a difference between shrewd and screwing over the other guy. This guy was named Michael in the Screaming ride phote booth and was class of 1974 or something... anyone know him? Katrina as written in Popular Mechanics.. "In fact, the response to Hurricane Katrina was by far the largest--and fastest-rescue effort in U.S. history, with nearly 100,000 emergency personnel arriving on the scene within three days of the storm's landfall. "
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 "LOL gurgitory, there is a difference between shrewd and screwing over the other guy. " Well, maybe you've got a little CEO-in-training?? LOL
Originally Posted By Beaumandy LOL, could be... maybe he will be a liberal? Wouldn't this board love that.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan It's easy to say this and that should have happened, but that's nothing more than monday morning quarterbacking. Mistakes were made, sure. But instead of playing the blame game, it's better to learn from them.<< Trekkeruss, I think your post #35 sums it up nicely. This back and forth blame game thing is never going to ensure that the screw ups don't happen again. Mistakes were made and the focus at this point ought to be on fixing the system so that people get evacuated in a timely manner, the levees get sufficiently rebuilt or reinforced, that every government agency as well as every citizen understands what their role is in a natural disaster. Instead, it's turned into a lot of "gotcha" stuff back and forth. It isn't helping.
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder Or I posted what I thought here. Let's really confuse 'em, just like George.
Originally Posted By cmpaley >>LOL gurgitory, there is a difference between shrewd and screwing over the other guy. << You've trained him well. He'll make a great corporate boss some day...screwing the workers, customers, etc. You should be proud.
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder <a href="http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/piehigher.asp" target="_blank">http://www.snopes.com/politics /bush/piehigher.asp</a>
