Originally Posted By cape cod joe Then do we just hate ALL Musims? Can anyone tell me how to win this war if we don't trust our "best" Arab friends albeit imperfect? We either have to "nuke em all" or hold out the olive branch? Anything eles legit out there?
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom No I don't hate ALL Muslim's but they do seem all do seem to HATE everything I stand for; democracy, equality and christianity. I can't think of a single other religion in the world who's offical doctrine is to kill all others christians, hindu's, jewish and all other faiths.
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 "Then do we just hate ALL Musims? Can anyone tell me how to win this war if we don't trust our "best" Arab friends albeit imperfect? We either have to "nuke em all" or hold out the olive branch? Anything eles legit out there?" No, but there is no reason we should be handing over our ports without question, just to show "support". There are other wayst to show that we are not against all Muslims, but to me, this is not one of them.
Originally Posted By patrickegan Okay, here’s a little more centrist option. I say we give the contract to the Titan corporation.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Why are the operations and security of our ports being outsourced to begin with?> Because we have a global economy.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <There just isn't enough known about this deal to support it.> But apparently, there's enough to oppose it.
Originally Posted By bboisvert <<<There just isn't enough known about this deal to support it.> But apparently, there's enough to oppose it.>> Yep, and it's coming from both sides of the aisle. The righties are getting a taste of what it's like when you are shut out and they aren't happy. What a tragedy that it took them 6 years and thousands of lives to get the message that the White House is only in it for themselves and their friends.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <The righties are getting a taste of what it's like when you are shut out and they aren't happy.> There have been differences between the "righties" and the White House in the past, and there probably will be some in the future. Some have been decided in favor of the "righties", like Harriet Myers, and some in favor of the White House. We'll see what happens on this. <What a tragedy that it took them 6 years and thousands of lives to get the message that the White House is only in it for themselves and their friends.> Do you think the Bush administration arranged for the British company that currently runs the ports to sell to the UAE company? I notice you haven't answered my question about whether UAE has ever been on a state terror list.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>But apparently, there's enough to oppose it.<< Gee, it would be nice if someone let the president know about these things... <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11494815/" target="_blank">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11 494815/</a> Bush Unaware of Port Deal Until After Approval President Bush was unaware of the pending sale of shipping operations at six major U.S. seaports to a state-owned business in the United Arab Emirates until the deal already had been approved by his administration, the White House said Wednesday. Defending the deal anew, the administration also said that it should have briefed Congress sooner about the transaction, which has triggered a major political backlash among both Republicans and Democrats.<<
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan It's pretty stunning that none of the PR folks thought a deal of this magnitude, that required so much "due diligence" by several agencies, ever thought of letting the president know until it was a done deal. “I can understand why some in Congress have raised questions about whether or not our country will be less secure as a result of this transaction,†the president said. “But they need to know that our government has looked at this issue and looked at it carefully.†Yes, they DO need to know that. All os us need to know that. Pity none of the folks involved with looking over the deal felt that way.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom Here is some travel advise from the Austraila government for its citizens traveling while in the United Arab Emirates. <a href="http://www.smartraveller.gov.au/zw-cgi/view/Advice/United_Arab_Emirates" target="_blank">http://www.smartraveller.gov.a u/zw-cgi/view/Advice/United_Arab_Emirates</a> Sure sounds like a safe place to me. Love those family values. Just remember they are our buddys <sac>.
Originally Posted By bboisvert <<Do you think the Bush administration arranged for the British company that currently runs the ports to sell to the UAE company?>> from <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/2/20/17574/4805" target="_blank">http://www.dailykos.com/story/ 2006/2/20/17574/4805</a> <snip> Treasury Secretary John Snow chairs the "Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States" (CFIUS) which made the decision for the administration. John Snow was formerly CEO of CSX, which - among other things - owned CSX/Sea-Land. A former director for CSX/Sea-Land, David Sanborn, left and became a director for Dubai Ports International. He was responsible for South American operations when CSX sold its port operations in Sout America to Dubai Ports in 2004. Former Snow employee Sanborn left his gig at Dubai Ports two weeks ago to accept the job as Assisstant Secretary of Transportation - Maritime Administration. Introduced to the Senate, by the way, by his good buddy, Senator George Allen. Then just two-weeks hence, this decision is made which will undoubtedly enrich all current stockholders in CSX/Sea-Land and Dubai Ports. </snip> <<I notice you haven't answered my question about whether UAE has ever been on a state terror list.>> They may not be on an official list preventing US businesses from dealing with that nation, but there are more ties to UAE and 9/11 than there were with Iraq. <a href="http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2002/03/15/al_taqwa/" target="_blank">http://www.salon.com/tech/feat ure/2002/03/15/al_taqwa/</a> <snip> "..the Al Taqwa bank, part of a network of financial companies named by the Bush administration as a major source and distributor of funds for Osama bin Laden's terrorist operations, has shareholders that include prominent Arab figures from numerous countries in the Middle East. Among the shareholders are the grand mufti of the United Arab Emirates and prominent families in the UAE and Kuwait. Two sisters of Osama bin Laden are also on the list, undermining the bin Laden family's claim that it separated itself from his terrorist pursuits after he was expelled from Saudi Arabia in 1994." </snip> BTW, the "State Terror List" never stopped Haliburton, GE, and others from propping up offshore nameplates and doing business with Iraq.
