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Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>Anyone who things liberalism works will also be naieve enough to think man made global warming is real.<< So man has no effect whatsoever on the environment? Is it naive to allow the possibility that climate change happens naturally AND that mankind's actions might have some effect on advancing climate change?
Originally Posted By ecdc "Give us a break. The oil industry are the ones trying to convince us global warming is not real? Rigghhtttt.... and we went into Iraq for Oil and Rove is in your closet along with little green men." Well Dirk, since you'd posted a quote from a scientist once funded my Exxon-Mobile, I thought it was worth mentioning the oil industry.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Again, the vast, vast majority of scientists who are not funded by the oil industry believe climate change is real and is the result of human behavior.> Of course, as we have seen, "funding" by the oil industry can easily stretched to include anyone who argues against humans being behind climate change. And I doubt the majority of scientists believe that human behavior is wholly or even mostly responsible for recent climate change. As I noted earlier, climate change has been occurring since the planet was formed.
Originally Posted By ecdc "I doubt the majority of scientists believe that human behavior is wholly or even mostly responsible for recent climate change." You can doubt anything you want. I've posted the survey from a very respected, non-partisan journal. If you've got something that suggests otherwise, we're all ears.
Originally Posted By ecdc "As I noted earlier, climate change has been occurring since the planet was formed." And as I noted earlier, this is the administration's new spin on global warming. As early as six years ago, this wasn't the conservative stance. It was simply, "global warming isn't happening". That's now such an absurd statement that it's morphed (and I compared it to the way conservatives morphed creationism into intelligent design) into climate change is a naturally occuring event that's nothing to be worried about.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <I've posted the survey from a very respected, non-partisan journal.> And I've read it. It doesn't state things as strongly as you do. <That's now such an absurd statement that it's morphed (and I compared it to the way conservatives morphed creationism into intelligent design) into climate change is a naturally occuring event that's nothing to be worried about.> Seems to me like it's being morphed because advocates are changing their terminology, not because opponents are.
