Originally Posted By brotherdave Also, I'm betting that the Marvel characters now on 'loan' to Universal's Islands of Adventure, may just remain there for some time, depending on the existing contracts. Disney could utilize OTHER Marvel brands at their theme parks that aren't currently used at IOA. However, when that license runs out for IOA (depending on how long that is), all bets are off. We just might see a quick retheme of Marvel Superhero Island into a Transformers/GI Joe Island. Supposedly, the proposed Transformers rides for US Hollywood and US Singapore will utilize the same ride system and effects as Spider-man. I could see a total retheme of that Island could happen rather quickly, similar to what's going on with Harry Potter taking over most of the Lost Continent across the lagoon. Hulk could be rethemed to the Transformers (or some other property) much more easily than Spider-man. Same for Dr. Doom's Fear Fall. Of course, dshyates had an awesome idea of transforming this area into a Universal Monsters area. That would be extremely cool, if done right. As for now, I'm guessing that Marvel will stay put in IOA until the license is up, but other non-used characters might start to show up at DSH, just not using the Marvel name (yet). Ultimately, I'm betting that Disney will have some huge plans for the Marvel Universe down the road, assuming that it doesn't sink the "Mouse's ship" in the meantime.
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy << Disney bought Power Rangers at the peak of their popularity... >> Technically, Disney bought Fox Family Channel which happened to have the rights to Power Rangers and a number of other children's properties. Disney didn't buy Power Rangers for the sake of having the Power Rangers -- they were just a fringe element of a much larger purchase.
Originally Posted By Disneyday From Universal's comment today, it sounds like it's up to Marvel where they want their characters. They said something like that Marvel was welcome in their parks for as long as they want to be there.
Originally Posted By DVC_Pongo >>>As for now, I'm guessing that Marvel will stay put in IOA until the license is up, but other non-used characters might start to show up at DSH, just not using the Marvel name (yet).<<< I hear there is a change of ownership clause that will end (in a very abrupt fashion) the theme park rights for Universal of the Marvel "stuff". Uh oh.
Originally Posted By DAR Well it makes you wonder: ESPN the weekend Super Soap Weekend Star Wars Weekend Could a Marvel Weekend be in store? Hmmmmmm
Originally Posted By CarolinaDisneyDad I read today that marvel has slated 10 movies in the next 5 years. While I think that this is too many too quickly, it does speak to the wealth of possibilities that is available with the Marvel acquisition. Hopefully Disney's vision for Marvel will will continue their successes. It wasn't long ago when Marvel was struggling just to stay in business.
Originally Posted By leobloom Seems more likely that the oversaturation of movies will result in a lower quality product with less popular appeal. But I'm also not someone who would buy a ticket to see a superhero movie. So I must admit, I don't understand the appeal of the superhero craze. Perhaps I'm not the right age to appreciate it, since I'm over 25 and never got into comic books. I'm of two minds about the news today: it seems at once a really odd marriage but also predictable on Disney's part. It seems clear this is Disney's attempt to be relevant with a teenage/young adult demographic, much in the same way that princesses appeal to young girls. I'm not sure what ever happened to the notion of Disney making popular entertainment for the whole family. I suppose that's what Pixar does best, and probably one of the reasons Pixar is the best thing Disney has going for it. I know a lot of people are speculating about how the news might affect Universal. And I realize that Disney isn't only thinking about the theme parks wars in Orlando when they go through with this deal. But I guess the disappointing thing to me is that Disney has apparently decided to fight Universal not by building bigger and more impressive attractions but by instead buying and trying to corrupt brand-recognition with the Marvel characters at IOA. In the long run this seems to cheat the theme park tourists, who many of us believe are already being cheated by ever-rising prices and ever-declining quality. This news hasn't played well with the geek community, many of whom are skeptical of Disney's plans. Final thought: where does this all end? Disney's long-term plan is apparently to continue expanding its presence globally and domestically indefinitely. Do they simply keep buying up smaller properties? At some point it seems like they'll run out of properties to buy or their presence will be so great that a popular backlash will ensue. This sort of thing certainly reminds me that Disney, at the end of the day, is not about pixie dust and magic. It's about capitalism, money, and power. And if it entails ripping off the consumer, so be it apparently.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 Everyone assumes this deal will get done (I am too) ... but who's to say some other suitor (Viacom perhaps since they have five films on the way from Marvel and the cash needed) doesn't step in with an offer of its own. As to WDW vs. UNI/IOA for character rights and attractions, I think it's been made very clear that UNI hold ALL rights in the USA east of the Mississippi to any/all Marvel characters/properties ... and that contract (according to those who have seen it) suggest it exists in perpetuity, which to me is a very long time before you'll get the Silver Surfer Chracter Brunch at Hollywood and Vine or see The Incredible Hulk's Escape in T-Land or the Fantastic Four meet and greet at EPCOT. It would appear Disney will just collect the same royalties from UNI that Marvel currently collects. It's not as big a deal as some might think. Plenty of properties in Disney and UNI parks aren't owned by the theme park they are in. Star Tours anyone? What I am getting from Iger's statements (and Disney -- and others -- lack of clarity) is that from a theme park perspective, Disney may take advantage of Marvel properties AROUND THE WORLD ... like say ... in China ... or maybe in a place like Singapore (new take on the regional concept that Disney was working on) ... then there's this theme park in Dubai based around Marvel properties that is/was supposed to debut in 2012. Disney is clearly afraid of going into Dubai (wisely) on its own, but this licensed project that they inherit wouldn't have Disney's name on it, but Marvel's. Of course, they could also pull the plug on it too. I am thinking this is a good deal for Disney, but I am also thinking they are overpaying and, unlike Pixar, the payoff may be a decade or more down the road. I do like the one-upsmanship that appears to be happening, though, in the business. Competition can be a very good thing. And I have the feeling Universal's big media announcement/event on 9/15 (just 48 hours after D23 wraps on the other coast) might just be a whole lot more than just showcasing the WWoHP!
Originally Posted By CarolinaDisneyDad Hey, we just got a few more movies to chose from for the Great Movie Ride redo.0))
Originally Posted By mrkthompsn I just don't think Marvel Comics and Disney belong together. I don't think it's a good match, even if Universal never had it.
Originally Posted By DAR For those who think that Disney and Marvel don't fit because Marvel doesn't fit Disney's family image. Don't forget that Disney owns Miramax who gave us such films as Clerks, the Crying Game, Pulp Fiction and No Country for Old Men. And I don't recall any of those films being attractions at the parks. Though that No Country For Old Men dark ride may have been good, except it would have just ended.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 I think what may worry some is that we do not want to see Marvel intrude into MK for sure -- the fit likely is in the DHS- which badly needs something. Marvel is at least as family friendly as Aerosmith which surprisingly to me I've read little complaints about. ( I have none as they are one of my fave American bands- but still surprised not more backlash) -
Originally Posted By FerretAfros If Disney gets Marvel, will they be a part od ComiCon and D23? It seems like keeping them out of ComiCon would be a great way to get more people to pay them to go to D23.
Originally Posted By Disneyday I've thought that Disney buying Marvel would be a good idea for years. Though, I think that I misread that the theme park deal was up to Marvel. However, Screamscape brought up a good point today. They said that Marvel has to approve all new attractions within Universal's park. They doubted that Disney would approve any new attractions for Universal. So, that area will become stale pretty fast. I could see Universal courting D.C. soon. There was a rumor that Time Warner may be interested in buying Universal/NBC, that could get interesting. As for Paramount or another studio making a bid, I believe that the agreement is final and they probably have clauses to prevent such a thing.
Originally Posted By leobloom >>They doubted that Disney would approve any new attractions for Universal. So, that area will become stale pretty fast.>> You mean like most of the areas at MK? Seriously though, Marvel Island has an attraction that Disney still hasn't one-upped, an attraction that many people think is the best in the world--Spiderman, and Hulk is one of the best coasters in Florida. It'll be years before casual IOA visitors see that area as being stale.
Originally Posted By Britain It would be pretty easy to swap out DC characters for Marvel characters at IOA, if Uni felt compelled to go that route.
Originally Posted By MPierce I wonder when the WDC will buy Mad Magazine. It would be a perfect match.
Originally Posted By Disneymom443 I think they would fit in DHS, they really need some kind of spark. So I wonder if we will be getting the Spiderman, Hulk, X-Man ect and the Disney Stores next year for Halloween? I wouldn't have to tell my guest sorry that's not Disney.
