Originally Posted By WorldDisney Re: Post #21. Hands down the strangest post I read here in a long, long, loooong time . Dude, sorry you can't ride the roller coaster, but yeah, THESE THINGS TAKE TIME!!! Take your own advice: Skip DCA altogether if you have to or just ride TOT a few extra times. That works for me .
Originally Posted By YourPalEd Aren't you post #21? So, Re: Post #21 is that your post is about your post, and how strange it is? Time is fleeting, i want the coaster up now so i can experience it while i am still alive. As for the Tower of Terror... Even with no lines, i hate having to watch that tv garbage in the library, before they let you go into the boiler room, and wait in another line to the boiler room elevators. They like to have the long lines inside the boiler room now, so people can't see how long they have to wait, which is awful. I love being dropped by the tower, don't get me wrong. I love the way you hover in space for a second, and then fall, that second and third time. That's all wonderful. But i'm sick of having to wait to get on the damn thing, just for a few seconds of dropping, and tempting the fates. They need to keep the doors open on both sides of the library, so you can walk straight through to the boiler room elevators. Put some lightning damage around the library, if you want, with the tv continuously on, showing the lightning striking the hotel. So the opening spiel can still be playing on the tv screen, but now just keep a continuous loop, and have the tv blinking, with some sparks, and occasional static from the speakers. The half-smashed tv, on it's side, sparks and sputters on one side, with the lights over head flickering on and off like the haunted mansion. But you walk right through to the boiler room elevators if you want to get on the ride quicker. I mean those who want to dawdle and just look at some of the artifacts in the library that are representations of icons from old twilight zone episodes, well, those people are free to do that while everyone else who wants to experience lack of gravity can walk ahead to the ride itself. I miss the loop on the roller coaster. It reminds me of how my parents used to flip me upside down when i was just a little boy. Sniff sniff. They used to hug me, and flip me over and over, and i would laugh and laugh til i got sick. I miss my coaster. sniff sniff, boo hoo hoo WAAAAAaaaaaaa.....
Originally Posted By Nobody From (what is currently) post #22: "They need to keep the doors open on both sides of the library, so you can walk straight through to the boiler room elevators." In my opinion, this is a very bad idea. I understand that occasionally in the past, they have let people walk straight through the "stretching room" in the Florida Haunted Mansion. That's just as bad. (I'm also disappointed that they never shut the door to the foyer in Disneyland's Haunted Mansion, but that's just me.) Back to your TOT proposal. Perhaps after they let you skip the library, they should load you up, and send you straight into the drop sequence. Don't you just hate how they waste your time with the show scenes and audio effects, etc.? Actually, isn't that whole shell of a building just a waste or resources around the ride? It almost makes you wish there was a ride somewhere that you could just walk onto and get shot up and down, without all that extra "fluff".
Originally Posted By WorldDisney <<Aren't you post #21? So, Re: Post #21 is that your post is about your post, and how strange it is?>> LOL, yeah, I meant post #19, sorry . I think I just saw *my* post number and it just mentally stayed there. But sorry dude, that IS a weird post. Listen to yourself, you are asking the Govenor of a STATE to shortcut an investigation because YOU want to ride the thing. I understand the frustration and all, but think about what you are saying here. BTW, I still remember when 'Journey', my favorite ride at TDS, was suddenly decommissioned a few years back when they found some faulty bug on it and I was going to go just 3 days before. Yeah, I was pissed, but I knew I would see it again on my next visit, which happened two months later and guess what, you will too . Also, the rant about the Pressler and Cynthia Harris minimum waged theme park worker loyalist who would risk possibly KILLING people and life in prision to sabotage a theme park ride because they really, really miss their old bosses, I can only HOPE you are joking, but I didn't see an emoticon, so I wasn't sure (but I personnally been misinterpreted MANY, MANY times when I don't include one myself, so I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here )
Originally Posted By Disneyland Resort Hmmm.... Underdog for Governor! Disney, get Cali open. ASAP. -- <a href="http://dumptv.com/disneychat" target="_blank">http://dumptv.com/disneychat</a> Disney Live Chat, Tonight! 8pm PST.
Originally Posted By Mr X This whole topic is silly, BUT, for the fun of it, I'll throw in 2 cents. Queue lines don't mean much, in this day and age, what with fastpass and such... BUT, I'll just stay that ALL the queue lines in DCA suck (with the exception of Grizzley rapids). The BEST queue lines on the planet are at DisneySea. Which also happens to be the most popular theme park on the planet (save the Magic Kingdoms)...the turnstyles don't lie. Take a journey into the center of the earth, complete with caverns and terravators and artifacts and winding twists and turns, BEFORE you even board the ride! Or, travel down and down and down some more into the 20,000 leagues depth...in a continuous spiral, and view some of the concept drawings of your submarine and planned destination, before you embark on your journey. Or, stroll through ruins and skeletons as you prepare to embark on your journey along with Indy Jones. Or, read the scrolls that tell the entire Sindbad story. Or, enjoy the enchantment of a snake who can tell all before you experience the Aladdin story. Or, Be informed by a trained professional of exactly the dangers you will be facing on your upcoming Stormrider expedition. Or, journey to the depths of the ocean (quite convincingly) before meeting Ariel and her friends on a bottom of the sea adventure)... All of which tells me...DisneySea rocks. Sorry, DCA...your park blows. So, what are some other favorite queue lines? I'd say it's not only the Modern (pirates and mansion spring to mind)... Sorry, Hans, you lose again bro.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney ^^^Well Mr. X, I'm sure there is ONE LP member who would probably disagree about the queue lines at TDS being really good. Probably think they are too long or 'too defined' or something like that and done all that well ;0. But, even without TDS, DCA queue's suck BIG TIME!!! I agree there 100%. TOT of course is cool only because it was based on a cloned attraction. Its sad that not one original attraction for this park has one good queue!!!! SSL was okay from what I can remember of it (and being just a small dark ride), but the rest sucks!!! The one queue that SHOULD have blown people away but is a major dissappontment is the Soarin queue. Soarin should've been 10 times better and that entire ride is one bare place. You never feel like you are getting ready to fly anywhere besides all the plaques and pictures and history of aircraft. It feels more like an aviation museum than it does a hangar . Of course, once you are inside, you still have to tell yourself all the steal and bareness around you is suppose to be some kind of aviation vehicle!! I remember when I saw Star Tours for the first time and was wowed by the presentation. Still am!! That's how you turn a simulator into an exciting build-up, not a lot of dumb pictures and plaques. DCA: You suck beyound measure!!!!!! BTW Mr. X, when am I going to get that reply email from you???
Originally Posted By Mr X Sorry, bro... I'll write back soon. Or as soon as I can, anyway... But, I'm not going to Hong Kong (if that's what you wanted to know). At least, most likely not (FGM won't let me!). Peace! X
Originally Posted By WorldDisney Yeah, that's what I wanted to know. Not surprised of course, but thought maybe there was a chance . Write me something anyway .
Originally Posted By Mr X >>>The one queue that SHOULD have blown people away but is a major dissappontment is the Soarin queue. Soarin should've been 10 times better and that entire ride is one bare place. You never feel like you are getting ready to fly anywhere besides all the plaques and pictures and history of aircraft. It feels more like an aviation museum than it does a hangar . Of course, once you are inside, you still have to tell yourself all the steal and bareness around you is suppose to be some kind of aviation vehicle!! I remember when I saw Star Tours for the first time and was wowed by the presentation. Still am!! That's how you turn a simulator into an exciting build-up, not a lot of dumb pictures and plaques.<<< People, I ask you, how AWSOME is this!!?? Do you, the appologists, have any kind of ANSWER for this? I doubt it, but hey, bring it on. What WD wrote is EXACTLY what I was thinking when we were in line for the ride (an EXCELLENT ride, to be sure!). I tried hard to ignore it though...cause I was trying to enjoy my time at DCA.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney Thanks for the back-up Mr. X . But no, they won't answer. Why? They are too SCARED to . There is no other answer other than Disney took the cheap way out, underestimated it's audience and thought no one would notice. Once again, they were proven dead wrong.
Originally Posted By Blacksheep Uncle >>Thanks for the back-up Mr. X . But no, they won't answer. Why? They are too SCARED to .<< no actually just bored of the continual "crying over spilled milk" and whining from some people didn't get what they thought they "deserved"... when someone presents some sort of new discussion that is more interesting than merely rehashing attendance numbers or some-such pointless argument that none of us can possibly provide anything substantive on then maybe people will more interested in "answering" as to answering why some INDIVIDUALS here don't like DCA (and feel the need to continually remind everyone of that opinion)...it would be more useful to try and explain why some people don't like vanilla ice cream or desert scenery or anything else in the world that people have different opinions on...
Originally Posted By Mandelbrot Mr. X: I have been labeled a "DCA apologist" for over five years now. I like the place; I can't help it. But I am in complete agreement with you about Soarin's queue. It is, at best, a huge disappointment. But it is also possibly the worst queue on Disney property.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney >>Thanks for the back-up Mr. X . But no, they won't answer. Why? They are too SCARED to .<< <<no actually just bored of the continual "crying over spilled milk" and whining from some people didn't get what they thought they "deserved"... when someone presents some sort of new discussion that is more interesting than merely rehashing attendance numbers or some-such pointless argument that none of us can possibly provide anything substantive on then maybe people will more interested in "answering">> Hmmm Blacksheep, I noticed all that typing, but not one attempt to explain why Soarin queue was so bad. See, scared, told ya ;D. (Relax dude, it was just a joke. You met me and know I joke ALOT ;D)
Originally Posted By YourPalEd Everyone who complains about how mediocre DCA is should thank their lucky stars for the amusement park. If it wasn't for DCA just imaginine what the inept disneyland executives, who were running things at that moment in history, just imagine what kind of damage, or more damage they could have done with their time thinking about disneyland instead. Remember, these were the same people who "IMPROVED" Tomorrowland and destroyed the place, closing down the subs, and putting in cauliflower, and a rocket rods that closed in 2 months or so, and they did it all for just under 200 million dollars. Let's see... what else? These are the same people who put in bright red and green exit signs so that people are not able to emerse themselves into the fantasy of the dark rides. That many signs are put in for some sort of sick personal agenda. No lawyer would say that many signs are required in pinnochio. As a matter of fact it's because it's about a little boy that they ruined it, while the snow white adventure, about a girl, right next door, has only a few, normal exit signs. These are the same executives who took out complex audioanimatronic bears, boring yes, but capable of new programing, all you needed was to hire real artists, and people who actually like to play with toys to make them fun. Instead the disney executives put in grotesquely simplified pooh characters and made the dark ride as boring as possible. What a slap in the face to all humanity. I personally like the way DCA is being ignored now. I mean it's not being completely ignored. They are building the monster inc. ride, even though i consider it just a replacement and not an addition. Still, i prefer DCA being slowly improved while the efforts at Disneyland are increased and the improvements created faster, by people, who know what they are doing. Things have improved quite a bit with the 50th, and Matt and all. Now, the main problem with Disneyland is the same old main problem it used to have, and that is the crowds.
Originally Posted By kennect Ed, Flash us that pic again with you posing with Cynthia a couple of years ago....You seemed to be thrilled at that immediate moment....
Originally Posted By YourPalEd Cynthia is a very nice lady. I enjoyed meeting her. Doobie was there too. I met them both and shook hands during the Lucky the dinosaur test run at DCA. You can see my picture with Cynthia at: <a href="http://acidheaded.com/lucky" target="_blank">http://acidheaded.com/lucky</a> or just go to: www.acidheaded.com and look in the Disneyland section for the lucky story. It's right there. What a friendly lady, Cynthia is. I would shake her hand or say hi to her anytime in public, even today. For a representative to be that personable, was an enjoyable experience. You knew it took an extremely sensitive and intelligent person to present herself in such a way. Things were so strange for a while after 9/11. Both parks were literally deserted with more cast members than guests many a day. The future seemed uncertain at the time. This strapped the management a bit, forcing cut backs, but they had already made so many bad decisions, like putting in all the restaurants, or more importantly, for some reason, putting in lots of chairs. They seem to like chairs. Disney suddenly loved to build restaurants that had lots of tables outside, and chairs, like in tomorrowland at the pizza port, where that whole side as you walk to space mt. fast pass is nothing but unused tables and chairs. Also like that place that was next to the super star limo for a while., that closed, and well at burger invasion, and pizza oo mow mowie, and around the burrito area. Then,let's see, i almost forgot about the pier eating area, which has 4 times as many tables and chairs as the other places combined. Oh i almost forgot all the picnic tables around the bountiful valley farm area. And i dont drink, but their are the tables and chairs at that wino on the grapes restaurant. They got them indoor and out! Oops, and i almost forgot Ariel's Grotto. That place has two levels of tables and chairs. I wonder if im missing any place with tables and chairs at DCA. Probably. My favorite are the unused tables and chairs on the side of the closed chinese restaurant on the pier, they go right up to the banister, always empty. I guess you got empty tables and chairs when you got an unused chinese kitchen. It's too bad the guards aren't allowed to sit on duty. It must seem ironic being told you have to stand and be alert, while surrounded by all those empty seats. I swear if you do a simple search of past receipts they will end up matching some executive's sister's business, or maybe some executive's brother, or interpersonal friend. But who am i to judge? Umm....Nevermind. Of course i was one of the psychos, like a few people around here, who were still going to the park in the days following 9/11, that's when both parks could be deserted for weeks at a time. Many days i would go to the park and actually feel guilty about the emptyness of Disneyland, and how much i was loving it, while at the same time sad for others. Anyway, there's no reason for Disneyland to suddenly become insensitive while they fix the damage to the toys, and rides. And as for all Cynthia's good points, she never should have been president of Disneyland. A sofa company, or a clothing store, or something she actually cared about is what she should have been president of, and not a national shrine, started by a republican reprobate in the conservative fifties. I guarantee you many decisions she made when it came to destroying the country bears and other Walt endorsed things were from subconcious ideological differences, if not fully concious decisions to destroy much of what can only be created by men. Because of ideological reasons, Cynthia had never, ever, even been to Disneyland. She had not only not been to it, she had gone out of her way NOT to visit, until she was forced to, it seems. I can practically hear what Cynthia's comment was... "Dang, they made me President of Disneyland. Now, i'll have to finally go to the darn place. Oh, drat."
Originally Posted By erikaren >>>The one queue that SHOULD have blown people away but is a major dissappontment is the Soarin queue. Soarin should've been 10 times better and that entire ride is one bare place. You never feel like you are getting ready to fly anywhere besides all the plaques and pictures and history of aircraft. It feels more like an aviation museum than it does a hangar . Of course, once you are inside, you still have to tell yourself all the steal and bareness around you is suppose to be some kind of aviation vehicle!! Considering that many if not most DLR guests fly into the area - we've been to the airport already, we're going back to the airport when we leave - do we need a building that looks just like an airport at DCA for a ride queue? What would we look at out the windows - faux airplanes just sitting there? As for designing the ride queue like a hangar...well...basically you want one big, huge, empty building, with a very high ceiling, a massive concrete floor, some steel rafters, and high intensity overhead lighting??? You know, we could bring back the Spruce Goose and wind the queue line around and underneath it - another chain link monstronsity!! (Besides, the museum that currently has the Spruce Goose, 20 minutes from my house, is a rip-off...) While somewhat bare, the Soarin' queue is probably the best in DCA...and the ride is the reason I go to DCA in the first place.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney <<Considering that many if not most DLR guests fly into the area - we've been to the airport already, we're going back to the airport when we leave - do we need a building that looks just like an airport at DCA for a ride queue? What would we look at out the windows - faux airplanes just sitting there?>> Man, that's reeeeaaaally stretching it lol. First of all, if you were to take that logic, why build a ride about aviation at all, I mean, we "all" JUST got off a plane that passed through Calif. Do we really need to see it again?? . But, I NEVER said it had to be an airport or anything in particular, just something creative and GOOD. What they have there now does absolutely zero in terms of what the ride is suppose to be about. That's usually what makes a great queue: Throwing you in a story while giving you an idea of what the ride is all about. Star Tours does a GREAT job at this as does Indy, SM, Splash, Roger Rabbit and a few others. No, I don't expect every single attraction to have these types of queues as many don't, but since this is supposedly the premiere attraction in the place, then yeah, it would be nice to have a rich and immersive theme. They could've had you walk through different images of California like the ride kind of does itself, do a Test Track style queue and have you walk though a training being prepared to become a pilot or something as simple seeing multi-video's of people hang gliding/flying through the years to sort of get you a little more excited instead of walking through the boring museum of aviation history . I don't know, just something better or a little more interesting to showcase what the you are about to experience. That sucky queue is far from it IMO.
