Originally Posted By TomSawyer >>Tom, why not give your phone number, SS # and home address to all of us?<< You have my name. It's not that tough to find out the rest (except the SSN, unless you have access to the right kind of databases).
Originally Posted By Beaumandy Still hiding from your real name Prig. You can't argue your pathetic world view without becoming some other name? Typical liberal.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer >>If your going to attack me, be who you are and not some pussy in the shadows.<< And who are you, Beau?
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Originally Posted By TomSawyer >>You can't argue your pathetic world view without becoming some other name?<< Yes, that is pathetic, "Beau".
Originally Posted By TiggerRulz >>Well these clowns lasted for 17 months in Canada before they imploded.<< Haven't the liberals been in power for 12 years in Canada?
Originally Posted By TiggerRulz <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/americas/11/28/canada.government/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/ americas/11/28/canada.government/index.html</a> >>It will now face voters in an election set for January 23 that could end 12 years of Liberal rule in America's largest trading partner.<< Yep. >>Recent polls give them the edge over Harper's Conservatives, but with fewer than 40 percent support among those polled, indicating that another minority government is likely.<< Not exactly a conservative mandate. I'm no fan of conservatives, but I have to say that Stephen Harper is one good looking man. Wish we had more politicians like him here.
Originally Posted By Moderation Beau, you are sadly confused by names. There is no conservative party in Canada. The conservatives in Canada propound a moderate centrist-right platform which you would call 'liberal'. People who call themselves liberal in Canada would refer to your beliefs as dystopian.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy Thank you moderation. Is it not true that the current government just got booted and they are considered to be liberal?
Originally Posted By Mrs Nurmi No Beau, it means that their NAME was the Liberal Party; they could have been called the Blue Banded Whistling Mountainclimbers, but it would not have made their ACTIONS Liberal. By your definition, that would mean that the 'Republican Party' are not democrats (small 'd'). The 'Liberallty Actioned' party in Canada is the NDP. Stick to what you know, Beau. Oh, wait - never mind, too easy. ;-)
Originally Posted By Moderation Oh yes, the government currently being turned out is certainly what you would call liberal, and also what I would call liberal ( I give the reiteration as I fear our definitions differ in scope, but they certainly over lap in this instance.) I merely wish to make the point that the liberals are, if they are to be replaced, will be replaced by a party which you may still consider to be , well, liberal.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy Great two different answers to the same question. I will go with Moderation.
Originally Posted By Mrs Nurmi Okay, I defer. To a right wing whack job they are definitely Liberal. By the definition of the rest of the world, they are marginally left of centre. The NDP are extremely left. My point was that the 'name' is not a 'definition'.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <An interesting tidbit from that article that Beau left out: "Unemployment in Canada is at a 30-year low and Canada runs a budget surplus." Kind of like the last time WE had a left-of-center government.> The last time we had a left-of-center government was 1994. In 1994 we were running a deficit and unemployment was not at a 30 year low.
Originally Posted By basas Well I am very happy about the news. The Liberal party has been loosing support left, right, and center and i can't believe that (mostly Southern Ontario) still gives them the vote. Wasting hundreds of millions of dollars, the party is involved in scandals up to their eyeballs. And I don’t care how you look at it, the Liberals are a left-wing party. Typical socialist style. The NDP are extremists to the left…don’t even begin about talking about them. The Conservative Party is the only hope we have at this point…I’m happy to report rising support percentages for the party, and eventually, more Canadians will agree change is needed. The Conservatives may not be as far right as the Republicans (unfortunately), but they are quite right-wing in their own respect. I’ve already got my Conservative lawn sign ready to go out.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <My point was that the 'name' is not a 'definition'.> Good point. Especially in Australia, where the Liberal (capital L) party is the primary conservative (small c) party.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <<An interesting tidbit from that article that Beau left out: "Unemployment in Canada is at a 30-year low and Canada runs a budget surplus." Kind of like the last time WE had a left-of-center government.>> <The last time we had a left-of-center government was 1994. In 1994 we were running a deficit and unemployment was not at a 30 year low.> The deficit declined under Clinton before the Republicans took the House. From '95 on we had a mixed govenment, but with Clinton proposing the budgets, that the Congress did not appreciably change.
Originally Posted By Moderation <My point was that the 'name' is not a 'definition'.> Good point. Especially in Australia, where the Liberal (capital L) party is the primary conservative (small c) party.<<<< And of course the all time winner the National Socialists.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <The deficit declined under Clinton before the Republicans took the House.> But was never a surplus. <From '95 on we had a mixed govenment, but with Clinton proposing the budgets, that the Congress did not appreciably change.> Except to balance them.