Originally Posted By Mary2013 America is the great melting pot. Why can't a british bear co-exist with a souther bear? Hell, Elton John lives in Atlanta.
Originally Posted By Yookeroo "Strangely enough, though, when Bear Country was called that, Disney's own promo materials from the 70's invariably referred to it NOT as the south, but as the "north woods." Trust me - I have all the souvenir books." Didn't the Bears start out as an idea for a ski resort? Something like that. Pooh as as good a fit for Critter Country as the Skyway/Subs/Autopia/Materhorn were/are for Tomorrowland. Maybe better.
Originally Posted By danyoung >What they put there was ENGLISH STUFFED ANIMALS. No, it does NOT fit, it's ridiculous to imagine they COULD fit, and Disney did it all for the money.< I'll say it again - the theme changed. Not radically, but it adjusted to where it didn't need to be SPECIFICALLY about the American South (or West, or any other specific region). It was just about critters. By any interpretation, Pooh is a critter. He belongs, and it's not ridiculous at all to imagine that he fits in. >Sorry to be so negative. Please forgive my harsh words!< X, I'd like to you open and close any future post directed at me with the above words. It'll go a long way towards making us even better friends than we already are!
Originally Posted By gadzuux >> Gadzuux, WAAAAAAY overanalyzing this. << Perhaps. But several posters had questioned my statement that Pooh was out of place, so I responded with solid reasons why I think so. >> Disney's own promo materials from the 70's invariably referred to it NOT as the south, but as the "north woods." Trust me - I have all the souvenir books. << Okay, if you say so - but why would they locate a country music jamboree in the pacific northwest? >> Good grief all you over-thinking Disney dweebs. It's a theme park. An escape from reality. You want historical accuracy, buy it and turn it into a museum. << Welcome to LP - this is what we do here - sift over disney minutia and arcane stuff that most people don't know or care about. >> Hell, Elton John lives in Atlanta. << He does? How did that happen? Atlanta is a major US city surrounded on all four sides by Georgia. Elton seems every bit as out of place in Atlanta as Pooh does in Critter Country. But what do I know. >> Pooh is a critter. He belongs, and it's not ridiculous at all to imagine that he fits in. << You say tomato ... But what about my other assertion that the ride itself is out of place in Critter Country? No one's taken that one on yet.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 ,>> Disney's own promo materials from the 70's invariably referred to it NOT as the south, but as the "north woods." Trust me - I have all the souvenir books. << <Okay, if you say so - but why would they locate a country music jamboree in the pacific northwest?> Because it was a direct copy of what they'd already installed in WDW. But the theming of the surrounding area was always described in Disney lit of the 70's as "north woods."
Originally Posted By mousermerf It was designed for Mineral King, installed at Disney World in Frontierland.. "Davey.. Davey Crocket.. King of Wild Frontier..."(Land) along with Sloo Foot Sue and Pecos Bill (and his Tall Tell Cafe) amoung others at MK. It all makes sense there. Ya'll just messed it up at DL.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance Mr X, it's okay that you disagree with me, I don't mind it when someone points out they have a different point of opinion than I, and I'll even give you extra points for complimenting me before you tore me apart, lol. I guess I just don't see Disney's version of poo as very British. And even if it was, then I'd say they sort of rethemed the area to make Pooh work, changing it to Critter Country, I think, and I could be wrong, but I think it made it more generalized rather than strictly American critters.
Originally Posted By cheesybaby <<Without looking at the backstory, Pooh doesn't look any more like a plush toy than the SOTS crew.>> What?! Pooh IS a plush toy. That's what he is. Christopher Robin is a human boy. Pooh is his plush toy. Pooh is not an action figure of a real creature. He is a plush toy and nothing else, with no other identity whatsoever.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance And another thing I don't understand is why everyone always says things like "Pooh is a stuffed toy" or he's a "plush toy" I mean, how is Pooh any different than any other animated character out there?
Originally Posted By gadzuux The premise of the original stories was that Pooh was a stuffed toy bear of the author's son - Christopher Milne. The stories were created around his son's plush toy. So the original origins of the character were of a imaginary adventures of a stuffed toy.
Originally Posted By TMICHAEL ....and all this Pooh poo-poo, would be for naught if the ride were as good as the E- ticket version at TDL. And anyone who thinks not, is BS-ing big time.
Originally Posted By TMICHAEL ....and sorry gadzuks et all, in the realm of FANTASY, in the land of Disney, an Americanized, British storybook character fits just fine along side singing southern characters that are animals with human facial features, all in a Country called Critter.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance But it doesn't really matter what the original premise of the story was, if it was based off of a stuffed toy or not, it's still an ride based off of a Disney animated series like everything else. Yeah and besides, it all comes down again to a difference in opinion. There is no right or wrong answer. I think it's fine, you guys might think it's not, but it's all just subjective.
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub So why are all the Pooh characters available for their meet and greet at WDW in Epcot specifically England. And Fantasyland in the MK? They are not placed next to Splash Mnt with the critters. How dare anybody call Pooh a critter!
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance Pooh would be so upset if he knew he were causing all of this uproar.
