Originally Posted By FerretAfros Also, the original had both sides running at the same time. There were booms on each side that swept up the saucers at the end of each cycle, and pushed them into a little loading/unloading zone. While this was done, there were already filled saucers on the other side of the boom that were being let out. So, the cycle time is the same as the load/unload time, and there are always people on the ride. Since it never stops, the capacity is pretty high. Assuming it has 16 tires on each side (about what the original had), it should have twuice the capacity of Dumbo, assuming a similar ride time. Since the second passenger will be compensated for with the other side, and there is no loading time factored in (since there are always people on the ride), it will actually have a decent throughput.
Originally Posted By gadzuux automotive dalmatians. I'm glad to see someone bringing up the noise issue - even if it's for the saucers instead of the 'testrack' attraction. Perhaps the 'cars' ride will be so loud that nobody will worry about the little saucer thingy on the side. Seriously, Testtrack in epcot is LOUD! It's only noticeable in the immediate vicinity of the showbuilding because the rest of the track has been routed away from public areas. I'm not sure how much they're going to be able to do that at DCA though. It appears from the schematics that the track layout is roughly "U" shaped, with the public areas in the center of the U. One of my biggest gripes with 'rocket rods' was the noise they made all over the entire area, and much of the noise was unnecessary - just random beeping and squonking for the sake of atmosphere. My guess is that the noise from the saucer ride will be less significant than the racket generated from the big attraction. And a midget autopia? That will only be a good thing if it means the removal of the other autopia in tomorrowland. One is more than enough.
Originally Posted By bean I doubt that autopia in Disneyland would go anywhere. A good chunk of the track is over the submarine show building. study would had to be done to see if another heavy structure could be built over the existing infrustructure. as for Mission Space, Mission Space was suppose to be the next franchise attraction which would had been built shortly after Epcot in Disneyland. It would had been the replacement for Innoventions. Due to several problems associated with its cost, construction and negative media in its first few years that idea was scrapped. At least for the near future. There are other more ambitious and unique ideas being designed for that area of the park that would be much more innovative and family friendly
Originally Posted By bean "And a midget autopia? That will only be a good thing if it means the removal of the other autopia in tomorrowland. One is more than enough." it was one of several attractions considered, that does not mean it will ever happen
Originally Posted By jonvn I remember going on the Midget Autopia. It was great for tots who couldn't steer a car.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Knotts had one for years also that I remember fondly from when I was too small to drive my own. But since that idea is strictly for small kids only, I would hope they would "double deck" it somehow so that more DCA footprint is not taken up by something designed for only one age group.
Originally Posted By bartholomewneff bean said: "Mission Space was suppose to be the next franchise attraction which would had been built shortly after Epcot in Disneyland. It would had been the replacement for Innoventions." Wait a minute, Epcot in Disneyland? What exactly do you mean by this, bean? Is this in reference to the third park? Huh?
Originally Posted By ni_teach What I think Bean meant was that if Mission Space was a big hit it would have been built in Disneyland to replace Innoventions.
Originally Posted By bean "bartholomewneff Thu 11/8/2007 4:49p bean said: "Mission Space was suppose to be the next franchise attraction which would had been built shortly after Epcot in Disneyland. It would had been the replacement for Innoventions." Wait a minute, Epcot in Disneyland? What exactly do you mean by this, bean? Is this in reference to the third park? Huh? " let me rephras. Mission space was suppose to be the next franchise attraction like Splash Mountain, Space Mountain and TOT. After the attraction had opened in Epcot's future world it was being considered to be built in Disneyland's tomorrowland inside the innoventions building
Originally Posted By bartholomewneff Thanks bean. Nothing like a little clarity to bring things into focus. I was wondering, how much of Hollywood Pictures Backlot going to change with the new expansion? I haven't heard much about it. Also, are we stuck with the name "Cars Land"? I think Route 66 would better apply to the area and that road leading from it could be called "The Mother Road". If they do decide to keep it I hope they change Hollywood Pictures Backlot to Hollywoodland. That way it'll reflect the period of history it's trying to convey and they can hopefully add some of the proposals for the Hollywoodland that was going to go over in DL. Your thoughts?
Originally Posted By bean As of now Cars Land is the working name for the land. Of course its not due to open till 2011-2012 so names could possibly change. As for Hollywood Picture Backlot, i believe the only change would be to remove the backlot name from the land and make the main street just hollywood with the back section being the backlot section. The area will get some overlay to help dial in the time period a bit more, the more dramatic change would be to the hyperion theater
Originally Posted By bartholomewneff Are they going to enclose the queue? Or is that part of Phase Two?
Originally Posted By PetesDraggin I would love to see a Mission: Space type ride make it to DL. They could build it the way it is currently configured at EPCOT, with a mild side and a wild side. That would help them avoid some of the problems that ride has had out in FL. But they could also change it a little to make it different from the one at EPCOT. I just don't think it will happen. But if they build something unique and better, I will be happy.
Originally Posted By bean Are they going to enclose the queue? Or is that part of Phase Two? not part of phase one. It will receive a more appropriate entrance the actuall waiting area will still have the look and feel of a garden but other areas that give views to the outside world will be altered. The street is also planned to get a facelift so that both sides are lined with buildings
Originally Posted By bartholomewneff Are they still planning expanding Downtown Disney, bean? If so, where will it go? Oh, and we all heard about the makeover of the Disneyland Hotel which I can't wait to see, but what about the Paradise Pier Hotel? Won't it look really out of place over the newly Victorian area that Paradise Pier will become? Any chance of a retheme to match?
Originally Posted By bean The Downtown Disney expansion is still planned to happen sooner than later. As for the Paradise pier hotel, the northern edge of the pier is being designed so that the hotel is not visualling visible from the area. Lots of landscaping and taller structures are being considered to help with blocking the outside world. Of course the hotel is quite tall and very close to the parks edge so it is basically impossible to block it out completely. The hotel is not do for a makeover but there are people that are pushing to hopefully eventually do something with it or basically remove it once the other hotels are up and running and replace it with a more Disney inspired hotel
Originally Posted By SFSC26 I always thought, the idea of tearing down the paradise pier hotel as it is now, fit in perfectly with the rumors of a "hotel Del-Coronado" esk hotel that's been rumored before. The Victorian-like hotel where the paradise pier hotel is now and the Victorian remodeling always made sense to me. Especially with the remodeling of the Disneyland Hotel and the expansion of the Grand I would assume that this could easily be a part of the phase 2 projects for DCA/resort from 2012-2017
Originally Posted By bartholomewneff It would be great if they built a hotel at the back of Cars Land that was modeled after the one in Cars that was closed. The one we see reopening at the end of the movie. That way people could actually(technically) stay in Radiator Springs. Kinda cool.
Originally Posted By ni_teach bartholomewneff, if you look at the plans, there really is no space behind the Car's ride. The only space left open is over on the Harbor Blvd. side, which is near Cars Land but not really part of it.
Originally Posted By bartholomewneff I was referring to where the toll booths are behind the attraction ni teach. I've heard from people that work in Glendale that that was a proposed area for a new hotel. The sad part is they say it was being planned there because the owners of the properties on the corner are not willing to sell to Disney. It would be great if they could build out all the way to Katella and take over the remaining part of the land. I was just thinking if they had the chance it would be great theming for a hotel. Now, if they were able to get those owners of the Candy Cane, 7 -Eleven and other hotels and shops there to sell then perhaps we could see a larger, themed hotel like the ones that were proposed for WestCOT. I personally would love to see a hotel themed like the Beverly Hills Hotel, which is what the WestCOT Resort Hotel was supposed to look like. It was supposed to go where the Simba lot is now. I hope that Disney running two hotels over at the GardenWalk doesn't stop them from building more beautifully themed hotels on the Resort. I'd much rather see a nicely themed hotel than a black topped parking lot any day.
