Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> No. I have big X painted on my back for Disney execs to shoot at! Fortunately, they have very poor aim ... and I have far more ammunition! << Now THAT's funny!.... (And so was my "red S" joke?.....)
Originally Posted By Labuda "They keep changing the final scene." Ok, let's be serious here. How many years has it been since they last udpated the final scene? Over a decade? 15 years? 20 years?
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 >> No. I have big X painted on my back for Disney execs to shoot at! Fortunately, they have very poor aim ... and I have far more ammunition! << <<Now THAT's funny!.... (And so was my "red S" joke?.....)>> Thanks ... sadly, it was only mostly a joke!
Originally Posted By oc_dean >> "They keep changing the final scene." Ok, let's be serious here. How many years has it been since they last udpated the final scene? Over a decade? 15 years? 20 years? << Yeah ... I found that line comical myself. I think the finale scene has been updated once or twice since Carousel of Progress opened in Walt Disney World in 1974.
Originally Posted By Labuda Thanks, Dean. I'd almost swear that the ending I see nowadays when I go is VERY similar to the ending I saw on my first trip in '87.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost I don't remember the exact last update but I think it was in the late 90's. If you judge it fairly it isn't all that irrelevant today. It's just corny in it's script. It still has a few years left or at least until we all have had talking ovens in our house.
Originally Posted By gaston lives yeah, they updated the final scene once or twice, but really, how often does it need revamping? AI video games are still not in the norm, and cooking machines like the talking oven are not in place, so they did their job by making it more futuristic and showing how progress will continue to change our world. They don't HAVE to chagne it for awhile. Now, they need to refurb and clean the thing, those seats are torn and old, but that's about it. Still a great, fun show.
Originally Posted By ChiMike >>Ok, let's be serious here. How many years has it been since they last udpated the final scene? Over a decade? 15 years? 20 years?<< The last significant update was in 1994. This was also when the song changed back to "GBBT" and it was coined with "Walt Disney's Carousel ..."
Originally Posted By danyoung Hey Chi, I gotta ask - got a lot of time on your hands? Lotsa old threads being brought back to life. No biggie, just wondering. . .
Originally Posted By ChiMike Just catching up on what I've missed since, I don't know around the 4th maybe? If I see a topic come up that is of interest or still topical I'll throw in a comment. It's pretty dead on here, so it can't hurt.
Originally Posted By mousefun Hi, all! I just went to WDW, and, I love COP, and, I feel that, some rides at WDW and DL need to be deemed "historic" and protected by over-zealouse management types who come and go and take away parts of Walt Disney himself. To wit: a) Main Street Magic shop...gone! For greedy RTW! Walt wanted his Main Street to have a magic shop, plain and simple. b) Main Street Cinema...GONE! To sell crudola that you can buy across the street at the Emporium. Sure, not heavily visited, though, neither are the horseless carriages...it's the show, stupid! So, with this, please...even though the mid 90's rewrite for COP is kinda boring (bring back the old track, please!), I vote heavily to keep COP spinning round round baby round round!
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo CoP is a masterpiece, but I have to disagree on the track - "Great Big Beautiful Tomorrow" was the original song, and I also prefer it to "Now is the Time, Now is the Best Time"
Originally Posted By mousefun I can go one way or another with the song. I am talking about the total rewrite and re-voicing of the attractions done in the mid-90's. Dreadful writing. Though, I do love the attraction. Also, persons should not be fooled that this attraction has no wait. If I am not mistaken, each theater can hold 240 persons. 6 theaters..amazing capacity.
Originally Posted By mousefun [Disneyland: In order to extend and preserve the show permanently, GE brought it to Disneyland in 1967. The G.E. Carousel of Progress in Disneyland was a two-level pavilion which could be seen by up to 3,600 people per hour. The first level contained the same basic acts. However, at the end of Act IV, guests stepped onto a "speedramp" that carried them to the pavilion’s second level. There they viewed Progress City, Walt’s model of EPCOT (renamed to Epcot). During its six year run at Disneyland Park, more than 31 million people saw the show.] So, COP is, without a doubt, the greatest guest per hour attraction in histroy (not including LIVE SHOWS, such as Fantasmic, MGM) WOuld be so cool to see COP with all of its theaters full for one hour.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>WOuld be so cool to see COP with all of its theaters full for one hour.<< Oh! the good olde days....
Originally Posted By dresswhites i don't think i ever read anywhere that walt disney said that carrousel of progress must remain forever. no offense but that is just silly. first of all, if he did say it, then shouldnt' of stayed at disneyland? I don't think there is documentation at all stating that walt disney felt any attraaction, shop, or restraunt should remain for all time. secondly the rumor of the carrousel of progress demise has been floating around for last 5 or so years. so this worrying about the removal seems kind of prematature. Thirdly, i guess i don't understand why people are so in love with this show. i found it boring and very dated. i mean if walt had nothing to do with this attracion, would it still be so popular among certain fans? i think attractions like the steam trains, small world, pirates, the jungle cruise are much more special and a good link to walt than the Carrousel of Progress.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost I, on some level, agree with you that Walt probably never said that it had to stay forever. It is his legacy that we now want to preserve and that is what makes it special. It also is a good historical show of what life was like just a few years ago. There's at least three generations now that never saw anything besides color TV. Where we came from as a society is important. CoP is an upbeat, comical look at the past. Sort of learning without realizing it. It is family entertainment that can be seen and enjoyed from beginning to end by all ages and health conditions. WDW needs some of those and it might just as well be a classic like CoP. Just a few years ago CoP appeared to be doomed. I went for about three years in a row and it was closed and listed as seasonal only. That meant it was closed most of the time. It was on it's way out. I don't know for sure what made them change their minds but it was probably the large outcry from the CoP fans that finally got through to the suits. The rehab of "alien" to "stitch" gave it a new lease on life and showed that it still could get people to go to it, inspite of it's age. I'll just look at it as a gift. I have many good memories connected with it. I can relate to both versions, "now is the time" when I first saw it and my children and I became hooked on the song. Also, "great big beautiful tomorrow" that came in to play when I was in a rough time in my life. Humming that song seemed to help me through it. I know that sounds as corny as the show itself but that's the truth. There's plenty of room for new attractions in other spots. Losing the oldies, but goodies, just isn't necessary.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 unfortunately there ae so many people who subsrcibe to the ' throw away' scoiety we have become. COP is a 'classic' attraction that is not blocking the path for any future enhancements, there is plenty of room ( starting at the poo playground) - - yet people get 'bored' with history and facts even if presented comically - because they want new new new. When I travel in Eurpoe I love eating in restaurants that are in 300 - 400 years old buildings - here we just bulldoze the thing the minute the styling looks slightly out of date -- I just don't get it. Close those museums and art galleries, who needs them when Playstation 4 is likely on the drawing board somewhere.
