Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer One of my favorite rides in the MK is COP. It's a classic ride, created for something other than a park, and was one of Walt's personal projects. That said... It IS outdated, and it IS in need of a change. But, it shouldn't change in it's format. Keep the song. Keep the family. Do what you will with the time periods. If anything, it can show the future, and in different topics. It can show the past. It can show just about any corporate message needed, but it needs to retain the family and the song. That's the REAL basis of the show. And if that should ever come to pass, I would hope that the old scenes and props would be saved and be preserved properly.
Originally Posted By dagobert We enjoyed COP a lot. In my opinion it was the best attraction in Tomorrowland. WDW's Tomorrowland was a big disappointment for us. SM is lame and can't be compared to Paris' version. Even Buzz Lightyear is more enjoyable in France, since the pistols are not attached to the vehicle. However Stitch's Great Escape was not bad at all.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<We enjoyed COP a lot. In my opinion it was the best attraction in Tomorrowland. >> That's like proclaiming someone the fastest paraplegic. <<However Stitch's Great Escape was not bad at all.>> SGE is a front to all that is good an holy in this world. I can only hope this is the next attraction to catch fire in the MK.
Originally Posted By dagobert >>>SGE is a front to all that is good an holy in this world. I can only hope this is the next attraction to catch fire in the MK.<<< Compared to the other attractions currently found in Tomorrowland it was fine. I've enjoyed it a lot more than MILF or SM. I don't like toons being added to attractions, but unfortunately I've never experienced the version without Stitch. >>>That's like proclaiming someone the fastest paraplegic. <<< I'm sorry, but what do you mean with that sentence?
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper ^^^^That all the Magic Kingdom Tomorrowland attractions are near the bottom of the barrel in terms of quality.
Originally Posted By dagobert Thanks for clarifying. I couldn't find a proper translation in that short amount of time. In 2008, when we have been to WDW, Tomorrowland, like the whole MK, wasn't in a very good state. So it seems the situation didn't improve.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper I rarely step foot on the Tomorrowland/Fantasyland/Toontown Fair side of the MK anymore. There's just nothing over there to draw my interest. I go to Adventureland/Frontierland/Liberty Square and hit everything on that side and then head to Epcot or DHS.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros >>I am really not happy to hear the Carnation Plaza Dance Stage will be replaced with a Princess Fantasy Faire....Do you know of any dates or timelines for this?<< Supposedly construction was going to begin in September, but nothing's happened yet. I suspect that it will begin in January, after the holiday crowds are gone. I think it's supposed to be ready in 2013, but the date may be earlier than that. It will be princesses during the day, and will still host the swing dancing on weekend nights, as it has for decades. The setting will be a little different, but I'm sure the crowds will still come; plus it will now be productive use of space during the day! >>SM is lame and can't be compared to Paris' version.<< You'll find this is the case with any version of it around the world. Paris' version (though I haven't been on Mission 2) completely blows the others away. WDW is definitely the dullest of the others (DL, TDL, and HKDL have the same track layout), but they're all pretty tame in comparison to DLP.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>That's like proclaiming someone the fastest paraplegic. <<< That's apples to oranges, Hokie. CoP is in bad condition, but that doesn't detract from it's meaning, history, or story.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan I saw it again a few years ago on our WDW trip. It was one of the things I'd most looked forward to, as it was always one of my Disneyland favorites long ago. The phrase "you can't go home again" came to mind. I love the idea of Carousel of Progress, and it probably could be truly updated and improved upon, but I don't see that happening.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<That's like proclaiming someone the fastest paraplegic.>> Not very PC, using that as an analogy to CoP only being the best of a very poor group... Just saying...
Originally Posted By standor COP is the best attraction on the property. The only problem is the young people of today don't understand the concept. Disney should have an educational program before the the show to explain the concept. It's time to update it and bring it into the 21 century. The last act is a disaster.
Originally Posted By danyoung Sorry, but I just don't agree with that, standor. There's nothing wrong with the concept of CoP, and it's an easy one to understand - progress through the years. But in today's internet savvy game playing world, it's just not enough of a fast moving show to keep the attention of the younger crowd.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<But in today's internet savvy game playing world, it's just not enough of a fast moving show to keep the attention of the younger crowd.>> That's true, but they need SOMETHING for us geezers they are trying to attract. What have they built for US lately? LOL
Originally Posted By danyoung Well, I completely agree, Trippy! I really love CoP both for the show itself and for the nostalgia factor. Every freakin' attraction doesn't have to be for the cutting edge crowd.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>COP is the best attraction on the property. The only problem is the young people of today don't understand the concept. Disney should have an educational program before the the show to explain the concept. It's time to update it and bring it into the 21 century. The last act is a disaster.<<< The preshow video does do this, but it's often drowned out by Stitch's dance party. CoP is also done no favors by being in SciFi land. It would be much more suited to be in EPCOT, where it's implicitl message would fit... Even in today's fractured FW.
Originally Posted By leobloom >> COP is the best attraction on the property. << File that under "Hyperbolic Statements You Could Only Find on a Disney Theme Park Discussion Board."
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo No Leo, I also concur (as long as joint billing goes to the American Adventure and Spaceship Earth) It sure as hell is not space mountain.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip It has what many here say they want... duration of the attraction is long, it has animatronics, and it is uniquely Disney... especially uniquely WALT Disney. It also is a people eater. What more do you want?
