Originally Posted By Goofyernmost The final scene is in an awkward spot, but give it a few more years and it will fit seamlessly in the historic show that I was advocating. Just because a few people remember the era of the 80's/90's, I am afraid that I have to point out that the 80's were 30 years ago. I think that there are many people visiting that either weren't alive at the time or were young enough to not remember. History is not just one persons. I lived through the 50's so I would guess that the third show should be thrown out as well. I suspect that some visitors lived during the time demonstrated by the second show as well...it's out! It's a pretty safe bet that no one that presently visits lived within the time of the first show...it's safe...whew!
Originally Posted By danyoung >The first few acts are great but the last one is a travesty and should be changed.< I think the final scene should be updated, but to call the current scene a travesty is a bit much, IMO. >...but give it a few more years and it will fit seamlessly in the historic show that I was advocating.< I think the whole point of the final scene is to show life in the not too distant future. If it's slipped into the past, then it's way past time to update it.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost Dan, you seem to be missing my point here. It should no longer be a show that tries to see into the future at all. Too much time and space is covered. It no longer is relevant and even if updated would only be relevant for about a 4 hour period. Make it completely historic blast from the past. It doesn't need that old message of what will make it a Great Big Beautiful Tomorrow. It would just show where we were, make note of the probability of great things in the future and let it be a classic Walt inspired attraction.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost One doesn't see too many of the pirate types depicted in PoC anymore either. That doesn't make it a bad show...just a humorous look at the past. Yes, we have pirates today but no where near as cute as those in PoC.
Originally Posted By danyoung >Dan, you seem to be missing my point here.< Not missing your point at all - just not quite agreeing with it. I don't think the last scene needs to be a nostalgic look at the 80's. As I said it needs to depict the not too distant future as it did once. I don't even a little bit mind the larger gap between scenes. I'm smart enough to understand that the 3rd scene is the 50's or early 60's, and the last scene jumps way forward. If it's 20 years or 60, it just doesn't matter to me. The last scene gives purpose to the others, in that there's a future to look forward to.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost To be honest I have no problem with the gap either. How much time is in between the scenes has absolutely no relevance to the show. It's just a little collective OCD that seems to require a strict spacing of time. My problem is that it is fruitless to make the attempt to see "just" into the near future. It might have worked in the 60's when technical advances were moving but at a slower pace, now...not so much. Too much, too fast to keep up and impossible to stay ahead, IMHO! The only way it might work would to be more along the lines of Sci Fi. Bubble community on another planet, like Horizons tried to do.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Yup... works for me too! <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8380782@N07/4562451330/sizes/z/in/photostream/" target="_blank">http://www.flickr.com/photos/8...ostream/</a>
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost ---Horizons-style works for me!--- ---Yup... works for me too!--- OK, lets get it going. Schedule a rehab for CoP. Get the Imagineers on it. Hire the construction people and lets kick this puppy in the butt and get it moving. I'm heading down to WDW the first week in December. Do you think we can have this done by then. I'd like to be able to critique it.
Originally Posted By utahjosh Just got call from my sister on her birthday. She's in the Magic Kingdom, and was about to go on the Carousel of Progress. My mom was crying, it's such a piece of nostalgia for her. And we love it, too. Agreed that the last scene could be improved, but overall it's a really neat piece of the Disney parks legacy that I hope never goes away.
Originally Posted By Socrates "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it." --- George Santayana Socrates "The unexamined life is not worth living."
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA "Well, the robins are back, that's a sure sign of spring. What year is it? Oh just past the turn of the century. And believe me, things couldn't be any better than they are right now." -- Father, scene one, "the Carousel of Progress"
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>The attraction should be reconfigured such that it no longer becomes an attraction within and of itself, but becomes an integral feature of an overall queue line that takes guests to a brand new Tomorrowland Horizons ride afterwards.<<< Sooooo awesome.... but so improbable I'd love to see it moved to EPCOT, while we are at it.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >The final scene is in an awkward spot, but give it a few more years and it will fit seamlessly in the historic show that I was advocating. Just because a few people remember the era of the 80's/90's, I am afraid that I have to point out that the 80's were 30 years ago< Disney isn't supposed to be a museum, in that respect. They can make exhibits about the past, but not just let them slip into history.
