Originally Posted By plpeters70 << I get what you're saying, but I'm not I'm convinced that, if this rumor is true, it's a weak strategy.>> You might be right, and I might just be letting my dislike of cloned attractions get the better of me. I'd probably have less problems with this is they actually changed the attractions more when they "cloned" them between coasts - but these days they end up being perfect copies of each other. But I'm still not convinced that this would be as big of a win in FL as it is in California. Don't forget, EPCOT already has Test Track. And as different as RSR's is from that, they're still pretty similar. (Heck - the whole almost bumping into the truck thing, and painting the cars, was a direct lift from Test Track.) So people visiting WDW may not be as impressed with RSR as the folks in DCA are - but I could be wrong.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Well it is just a rumor at this point, and I've never been on TT so RSR was a completely new experience for me.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper RSR's ride system is secondary to it's beautiful vistas, IMO. They're enough to impress over Test Track. With that being said, I think this could hurt EPCOT, which is already kind of in dire straits.
Originally Posted By magic0214 I would love to see something of that scope, but not an exact copy. I wouldn't mind another Pixar movie even, I just don't want another Carsland. I was thinking a Monster's Inc. area. Both it and Cars have two films and cool locations...and who doesn't want a Harryhausen's Sushi restaurant at DHS?!
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "RSR's ride system is secondary to it's beautiful vistas, IMO." No kidding. Wait till you see it in person when you visit this fall. What a joy it is to know that Disney can still design things that make a person's jaw drop.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I agree with the folks who want something, but not really this. Cars Land is what DCA needed in 2012, but I would be surprised if it's what the Studios park needs in 2015 (or later). Especially given the stuff going on at Universal, something of this magnitude would be great, but question the theme and it's "relevance" as a new land in 3-5 years. As for the location, the backlot tour has seen better days, but has a very awkwardly shaped footprint for a major replacement. LMA isn't my favorite, but I would be shocked to get rid of it after such a relatively short run (how long has the BATB show been running?). Instead, I look to the south of the park, in an area that is currently completely unused. Any major addition like this would take a lot of work, so why not add in a little roadway work? RSR at DCA reportedly cost around $300million (not including the rest of Cars Land); rerouting this road would be less than $10-15million. From my understanding, that parking lot entrance is rarely at the intended capacity, as a lot of traffic comes to the park from the north, so they may be able to work on it with more flexibility.. By rerouting that guest access road to the south, along the existing waterway, that opens up a ton of space (roughly 1/3-1/2 of the existing park) for future expansion. The park has always had limited space, and has suffered awkward additions because of it; this would help ease that, and introduce more to the park, rather than simply replacing what is already there.
Originally Posted By DlandDug I think adding Cars Land to Hollywood Studios is a no brainer. The reaction out here in SoCal has been overwhelmingly positive. And the SoCal crowd is notoriously critical of anything new. One of the designers of Cars Land was just reassigned to WDW. I am sure she has some compelling reason to be there. Cars Land thematically fits just fine. There are already two other major film franchises with dedicated attractions and even themed supporting areas: Indiana Jones and Star Wars. I think an area themed to Cars would be a good complement. As far as where to put it, that corner currently occupied by the aging Catastrophe Canyon and the not very popular Lights! Motors! Action! is, again, a no brainer. The awkward shape of the corner would fit the Cadillac Range just fine. And the RSR show building could very logically be placed in the area where the parking lot and some bungalows are, just to the north behind the sound stages. These facilities haven't really been used in the way they were intended-- as an actual working studio lot. It would also finally put the now baffling Studio Tour out of its misery. All the support facilities for that could be put to other, better uses. I would not be surprised if they aren't quietly working out details now, with some kind of teaser announcement after they get through the hoopla surrounding the opening of the new Fantasyland in the MK.
Originally Posted By DlandDug I think adding Cars Land to Hollywood Studios is a no brainer. The reaction out here in SoCal has been overwhelmingly positive. And the SoCal crowd is notoriously critical of anything new. One of the designers of Cars Land was just reassigned to WDW. I am sure she has some compelling reason to be there. Cars Land thematically fits just fine. There are already two other major film franchises with dedicated attractions and even themed supporting areas: Indiana Jones and Star Wars. I think an area themed to Cars would be a good complement. As far as where to put it, that corner currently occupied by the aging Catastrophe Canyon and the not very popular Lights! Motors! Action! is, again, a no brainer. The awkward shape of the corner would fit the Cadillac Range just fine. And the RSR show building could very logically be placed in the area where the parking lot and some bungalows are, just to the north behind the sound stages. These facilities haven't really been used in the way they were intended-- as an actual working studio lot. It would also finally put the now baffling Studio Tour out of its misery. All the support facilities for that could be put to other, better uses. I would not be surprised if they aren't quietly working out details now, with some kind of teaser announcement after they get through the hoopla surrounding the opening of the new Fantasyland in the MK.
Originally Posted By 999HAUNTS I am not against DHS adding a new modern ride...but will this be a carbon copy of what we have here at DCA? When I go on vacation, it is usually to WDW. I really don't want to ride anything there that I ride two-three times a week here.
Originally Posted By magic0214 ^^^I would like to point out how wonderful it is that you said 2-3 times a week...that is fantastic .
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost The thing is that there are a lot of East Coasters that never get to the West coast. Percentage wise, probably a lot more fall into that category. There are other things that you don't see in Cali. that you do get to see in WDW and vice-versa, but some of the really good ones should be shared. They built WDW (Walt did plan it anyway) to capture the east coast audience because he knew that so few would ever get to Anaheim. Good thing to, because imagine if the eastern seaboard decided to visit DL. Wouldn't that be fun!
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "I am not against DHS adding a new modern ride...but will this be a carbon copy of what we have here at DCA?" Isn't that basically what half the stuff is in the MK anyway? Carbon copies of what's at DL? "I really don't want to ride anything there that I ride two-three times a week here." Do you ever think that you visit DL too often? This is a serious question.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<One of the designers of Cars Land was just reassigned to WDW. I am sure she has some compelling reason to be there.>> Just to be clear, Mangum isn't a designer. She's a producer. Number cruncher. Still, she probably was moved to oversee the entire DHS project.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 I say in addition to Carsland. Take out the IJ Stunt Show, replace it with the ride from DL and find a way to build a Cantina restuarant
Originally Posted By plpeters70 <<Isn't that basically what half the stuff is in the MK anyway? Carbon copies of what's at DL?>> That's true, but then they built EPCOT - which was an entire park with all original attractions. They set the bar pretty high with that one - and frankly, have never quite lived up to it again. But even MGM and AK had mostly unique attractions when they opened. I'd prefer they go back to designing unique attractions for each coast - but I know with today's Disney that's probably not realisitic anymore.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost >>>I'd prefer they go back to designing unique attractions for each coast - but I know with today's Disney that's probably not realisitic anymore.<<< I'm not even sure it should be. Even though the world is smaller now, with commercial travel the way it is, it is still very expensive. Many people that go to WDW will never be able to go to California and likewise, Cali. to Florida. There is no real incentive to not duplicate things when nothing will really be gained by it. Carsland is a good example. I'd love to see it but I have no plans or intention of traveling to DL/DCA to see it. If you have a lot of available cash then it might be just another trip, but to go clear across country to ride a ride, is not really feasible at this time.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "They set the bar pretty high with that one - and frankly, have never quite lived up to it again." Given what inspired it I don't think there was ever any chance that Disney could ever live up to such goals again. However, let's not forget that an EPCOT park was seriously considered for DLR before they finally settled on the DCA concept.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA Building Carsland with the same technology as Test Track is weird. Too similar. It's the same 'weird' factor as building Indiana Jones Adventure at DHS.
Originally Posted By dagobert In my opinion using the same ride technology for more attractions shouldn't be a problem. Otherwise it would have also been weird to have several dark rides at the same resort, or even in the same park. Both POTC, IASW and Gran Fiesta Tour use the same ride technology, nevertheless it used several times. So I think it's fine bringing Cars Land to WDW. The regular guest doesn't care about the ride system as long as the attraction is fun.
