Originally Posted By vbdad55 there should be a family suite in the prison for a number of this family
Originally Posted By ecdc DDMAN nailed it. So well said. And since I didn't follow it, all I can say is I'd rather a guilty person walk than an innocent person go to jail. Yes, its upsetting; we all want justice, especially when a child is involved. But our system requires a reasonable doubt. Odds alone say she's probably guilty. But there's plenty of examples of "open and shut" cases that, when looked at closer, turned out to be much murkier. And we can't convict people based on whether we think they acted appropriately after a loved one died. For a lot of lower-class Americans, all they know after pain and disappointment is drinking. Cameron Todd Willingham was convicted in large part because he went to a bar after his little girls died in a house fire. He was executed by Texas, and was almost certainly innocent.
Originally Posted By KCCHIEF OJ is in jail...not for murder...but, he is there for a long time for trying (at gunpoint)to steal his own memorabilia ...it is called KARMA
Originally Posted By vbdad55 whn in florida for 2 weeks this trial was on virtually every channel -- we did follow it very closely the last 3-4 weeks - what happened to this poor child is beyond words and what they did to her before dumping her where they did is less than human. the evidence presented and piecing together the fact the defense didnt dare let her near talking.. as they knew she'd cave. this is a cold blooded killer who in my opinion would not think twice about it a second time
Originally Posted By vbdad55 she's on tape partying like nothing happened when her daughter went missing ? what about the diary entry 5 days after : ""I completely trust my own judgement & know that I made the right decision," Anthony wrote in a June 21, 2008, diary entry that was shown to the jury. "I just hope that the end justifies the means. ... I am finally happy." and she doesn;t have to explain this ? the poor kid gets chloroforms and duct taped- yet supposedly she drowned ? then her and the father dump her in the woods -- is this how someone reacts to an 'accident' the made up babysitter - the made up rich boyfriend -- what next aliens ? truly they found a panel of 12 morons...who thought they were watching a rerun of Jersey Shore or some other low life program that our society has degenerated into. it's sad for all of us
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <I haven't been paying attention so I can't properly say if Casey Anthony is guilty or not but quite frankly I didn't want to. I just found the whole thing to be creepy and exploitive.> Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I REFUSED to pay attention to this case. Just like I refused to pay attention to the "runaway bride." Obviously, this is much more serious, but I still resent the media seemingly picking ONE trial out of thousands that go on every day and saying in effect "this is the one you will care about. And we will wallow in all the sordid details, and you will know all about them, and you will know more about this family than many of you know about your own." It's what passes for news even on "serious" news channels, and I resent it so much that when it comes on I reach right for the remote. I swear I'd rather watch a rerun of Family Feud on GSN than learn about it. I know that's probably an irrational response, but I just hate this crap more than I can say. It's exploitative, it makes me feel dirty, in ways I can't put my finger on I think it lowers us collectively... I just hate it.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<For a lot of lower-class Americans, all they know after pain and disappointment is drinking.>> I think there's a difference between drinking at a bar, and PARTYING like she did at a night club.
Originally Posted By ecdc Unsurprisingly, some are taking my statements as a defense of Anthony or a protestation of her innocence. I did not follow the case. (I'd add, neither did anyone here; they followed the media portrayal of the case, a very different thing altogether.) I am only suggesting that 1) Open and shut "obvious" cases sometimes aren't. The majority are, but when dealing with such serious matters of life and death, it's worth keeping in mind. 2) How a person chooses to behave is not always a good indicator of guilt. (Innocent people frequently lie out of fear, embarrassment, etc.) Others may go out to party to "escape." After the verdict, I read a summary on CNN. Based on that, I'd say Casey Anthony is probably guilty. But since when do we trust the media to give us the whole story vs a sensationalized version? She may be guilty; statistically, she's the favorite, but I'll pass on being jury and executioner.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 <<I swear I'd rather watch a rerun of Family Feud on GSN than learn about it. I know that's probably an irrational response, but I just hate this crap more than I can say.>> No that is a perfectly good and reasonable response.
Originally Posted By Lady Starlight Todays verdict for Casey Anthony was truely sickening! Our judicial system is so warped! Those jurors should all be ashamed of themselves for not using a common sense. Ugh! it is SO blatenly OBVIOUS she IS GUILTY! Karma Karma Karma... 10 Fold!
Originally Posted By Lady Starlight And.. all that crap about striking comments and evidence from the record is bullpucky! EVERYTHING should have been allowed to be considered by them jurors. Poor Caylie had no justice brought to her today. It's sickening truly sickening!
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder The justice system is not a fraud, it isn't warped and what's more, this case proves it works. The prosecution couldn't prove its case. Proving she lied does not prove she killed her child. It proves she lied. They couldn't show why she lied. Had they done so, maybe things would be different. There was no direct evidence linking her to the death, and as hard as it is for people to accept, a "gut feeling" or "we all know she did it" does not equal "beyond a reasonable doubt". What's more, the jury didn't hear all of what everyone else did. They heard what the judge allowed them to hear. The prosecution aimed too high here, and did not have a good case for what they set out to do. It's really that simple. Moreover, it didn't take a legal Dream Team to poke holes in this case. Casey Anthony didn't buy her way out, nor did her lawyers come up with a catchy phrase for the jury (If it doesn't fit, you must acquit). In a slow, boring methodical way, her ordinary defense lawyers were able to show the case wasn't good enough to convict on the charges brought. That it only took the jury ten hours to say so just reinforces that point.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>as hard as it is for people to accept, a "gut feeling" or "we all know she did it" does not equal "beyond a reasonable doubt<< That's what disturbs me. Truthiness in politics or church is one thing; in the legal system it's problematic, to say the least, though it does happen.
Originally Posted By Lady Starlight <<What's more, the jury didn't hear all of what everyone else did. They heard what the judge allowed them to hear>> Hence why I say it's warped. They should have been allowed to hear and see everything at all times throughout the whole entire hearing. Even what was said at all the side bar talks. IMOHO I do belive that the judicial system is warped but karma isn't, and karma will find its way to where it needs to be. I hope someday justice will come to little Caylie.
Originally Posted By Lady Starlight The jurors did what they "legally" had to do and as sad as it is they came to that conclusion that she was not guilty. It just baffles me why common sence can't be used. Everything linked to Casey. she was the common denominator. And yes, you can be a liar and not a murderer, but why would any parent, let alone a supposedly "loveing" mother lie and hide what happened to her own flesh and blood if she weren't guilty to begin with? If there was no foul play due to her why wouldn't she have called the police and report her daughter missing at the beginning and why didnt she mention the fact that Caylie was missing to any of her family or friends? Why was she out shopping, partying and getting tattoos instead of grieveing and tearing the whole world apart in search of her missing two year old? ugh! It's just a tragedy and its sickening. There are no winners in this case at all.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "Hence why I say it's warped. They should have been allowed to hear and see everything at all times throughout the whole entire hearing." While I might understand the sentiment, there are many reasons why they never will. Many things aren't admissible, many things aren't relevant, many things are unconstitutional.
Originally Posted By DyGDisney I haven't been following this case either, so I have a couple of questions for anyone who has: 1. If the child drowned accidentally, why was her body found in the woods with duct tape hanging from her skull? 2. If the family took their drowned child, hid her somewhere, duct taped her skull (for whatever reason), and dumped her in the woods, is that not SOME sort of crime?
Originally Posted By mele I like that they didn't report her missing for a month. I also like the internet searches for chloroform, chest trauma and ruptured spleen. I like that she participated in a Hot Body contest 4 days after her daughter supposedly went "missing". I like her journal entries, too. So much to like about this case. :-(
Originally Posted By mele Oh, I also like that her lawyer accused her father and brother of sexual abuse and that the girl's remains were tested to prove paternity. It wasn't her brother or father. No evidence was given to prove any of those accusations. Apparently, it's okay to accuse everyone of anything all while feeling sorry for yourself for being wrongly accused.
Originally Posted By alexbook Am I the only person in America who didn't know about this case until today? I swear the only time I'd heard of Casey Anthony was seeing her name on gossip magazine covers. I just figured she was the star of some TV show that I hadn't seen, like most of the people in those magazines. I'm still confused about why this is a big deal. Why this case and not any of the other murders that happen every day? They're all horrendous. Why was this defendant treated as a celebrity and not the others?
