Originally Posted By mele No, I had only heard bits and pieces over the past few years, alex. It wasn't until this weekend that I read about any of the case. Pretty gross. I have no idea why certain cases catch people's attention while others do not.
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Originally Posted By mele Oh, she made up a couple of stories BEFORE the one about the girl dying in the pool, one being that the nanny kidnapped her.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 "Why was this defendant treated as a celebrity and not the others?" Why indeed. This is what I meant by the media deciding for us "this is the case you will care about." And sure enough, millions of Americans started caring passionately about this case. Quite apart from the merits of this case, it is media manipulation of public emotion at it's most blatant. It really disturbs me.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>It really disturbs me.<< And me. All the Nancy Gracers are undoubtedly foaming at the mouth.
Originally Posted By Inspector 57 <<The justice system is not a fraud, it isn't warped and what's more, this case proves it works.>> I've been on a jury a couple of times (armed robbery, insurance fraud). Those experiences have, sadly, convinced me that the system is indeed "warped," at best.
Originally Posted By DVCdad3 "Justice" was served. But sometimes we don't want "justice." We all want "fairness." Sometimes the two are not the same, and that's when it gets ugly. I wish I would have followed the case more closely now, but alas, I didn't. It seems overwhelmingly convincing that she is guilty in part, at least. I lurked back over to see what you all were posting on this topic. Good thread, and hi again to my old friends here.
Originally Posted By DVCdad3 "truly they found a panel of 12 morons...who thought they were watching a rerun of Jersey Shore or some other low life program that our society has degenerated into. it's sad for all of us" WELL SAID.
Originally Posted By DVCdad3 "It's exploitative, it makes me feel dirty, in ways I can't put my finger on" Huh ?!?!?!
Originally Posted By DVCdad3 ecdc, you are still the voice of reason in this statement: "since when do we trust the media to give us the whole story vs a sensationalized version?"
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder >"truly they found a panel of 12 morons...who thought they were watching a rerun of Jersey Shore or some other low life program that our society has degenerated into. it's sad for all of us" WELL SAID.< Not in the least. They found twelve people who quickly decided the prosecution didn't prove its case.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "I've been on a jury a couple of times (armed robbery, insurance fraud). Those experiences have, sadly, convinced me that the system is indeed "warped," at best." I'm sorry you feel that way. However, no one has ever been able to come up with anything better.
Originally Posted By ecdc I don't think one can make a blanket statement that the system is warped; it has to be assessed on a case by case basis. As overburdened as our system is, I think it does pretty well. I rail a lot about innocent people being convicted, because I think it's a far worse injustice than a guilty person going free. And, more often than not, when we see a guilty person go free it's a high profile case with rich people. When innocent people go to jail, none of us hear about it and it's usually a minority, and/or lower-class American, and/or someone with mental illness. These people have no voice. A perfect storm of coercive cops, overzealous or irresponsible prosecutors, sloppy forensics, and overwhelmed public defenders can lead to disaster. But even then, these are a small minority of those who move through our system. Even one is too many, and it needs to be fixed, but usually the system works pretty well.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper The question to consider is if Casey Anthony is really a danger to society at this point. I would say she likely is not though I would have some concerns if she ever decides to have children again. Should there have been justice for little Caylee? Yes. But, I don't think society will suffer because she was found not guilty. The best thing anyone can do at this point is to avoid contributing to any type of profiteering she or anyone involved with the case will try to do. Anyone who buys her book or watches her made for tv movie is pathetic in my opinion.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 (I'd add, neither did anyone here; they followed the media portrayal of the case, a very different thing altogether.) -- ecdc - the case was on every day in Florida -- not media portrayal- the actual trial so those people could decide exactly what happened. It was rerun at night as well which is when we say some of it
Originally Posted By vbdad55 The justice system is not a fraud, it isn't warped and what's more, this case proves it works. --- while I know where you are heading and can agree partially-- this case unfortunately was never about the truth -- it was about wininng or losing. An appropriate comment from the former fiance. Both sides engaged in tangents to 'win over' the jury--sensationalism to the whole Casey was sexually abused by the father crapola. None of this was intended to get to the truth- just win 'votes' per se. They never had to show innocence - just cast a doubt on any facts that did exist. I get the letter of the law ...it's the morality- or lack thereof- that bothers me without a video of the crime there can always be a reasonable doubt...( even with a confession) - my concern comes from the best attorney & strategy winning now- not a drive for the truth so maybe it's society's problem and not the courts.. but it's a problem nonetheless Same thing during the OJ trial- which was even more tainted by other influences other than the actual crime...
Originally Posted By vbdad55 Not in the least. They found twelve people who quickly decided the prosecution didn't prove its case. --- I'm sorry , I disagree. They have 12 people who in my opinion ( and we can find 12 more anywhere) whose moral and ethical standards have been lowered and sensibilites number by the crap they see everyday on TV and what passes for entertainment today that I believe their judgement is clouded. I did not see anything that indicate 1st degree murder beyond a doubt- but to let this killer walk free is disturbing. Maybe the prosecution should have focused on a lesser manslaughter charge based on lack of some details-- but this little girl did not kill herself- nor did she dump herself in the woods like used garbage. The fake nanny, the fake rich boyfriend, the callous attitude shown while partying while her daughter was supposedly kidnapped- which we know now she could not have been.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 it has to be assessed on a case by case basis. As overburdened as our system is, --- agreed- just another sad statement about the lowering of standards and value of human life ( as well as property/respect for the law etc.)-
