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Originally Posted By mele <<I always thought that being really into football is just as gay as being really into any other hobby>> Nice.
Originally Posted By BlueDevilSF The real double standard here is that a couple years ago CBS rejected an ad from the United Church of Christ that stressed the church's spirit and policy of inclusiveness. THAT is reprehensible.
Originally Posted By Darkbeer First off, I am a FAN of Free Speech... And if the ad follows the policies of the network, and they have the money, it should air...... But did the Dating site SPECIFICALLY read the CBS policies and broke them JUST to make news? Heck, the "news" came out a few days after the info that the Focus on the Family ad was to air. By making an ad that they knew CBS would refuse saved them a LOT of Money in not having to pay for the ad and getting a lot of free advertising..... Just saying....
Originally Posted By ecdc I don't disagree with Darkbeer. The world may be ending tomorrow I don't know if they did this on purpose or not. I don't really mind either way. And I really don't mind about CBS. The larger issue for me remains what I alluded to earlier. CBS accepts a pro-life ad, rejects this ad, and does so as a business decision. It says a lot about our culture, and not in a good way.
Originally Posted By mele I think it's highly inappropriate to have any sort of pro-life Dobson ads during the SuperBowl. How great they'll be in between erectile dysfuction ads and beer advertisements. Fantastic. However, advertising during the SB doesn't really seem to be the best way to use their advertising dollar. It does seem like they're looking for controversy. Clearly CBS has double-standards here as they refused to air ads for a church with a message of inclusion for gays but I really only wanna hear about their double-standards in *real* cases, not something trumped up for publicity. I'm so sick of how America acts like the SB is some holy, great American family pasttime. Give me a break. I'm supposed to care that some great football player might have been aborted. Well, I don't. And when I see photos of him with a bible verse painted on his face during games, I really, really don't care. I hate that kind of crap. Showy Christianity that is really just showing a huge misunderstanding and disrespect for the God he wants everyone to know he worships. Is incredible to me to think that people would think a God, any God, would be inline with ANYTHING going on at these games. They entail violence, hyper-competition, sex and money. Sure, all the things Jesus loved. Pathetic.
Originally Posted By mele <<However, advertising during the SB doesn't really seem to be the best way to use their advertising dollar. It does seem like they're looking for controversy.>> Oops, should read: However, advertising during the SB doesn't really seem to be the best way for the *gay dating service* to use their advertising dollar. It does seem like they're looking for controversy.
Originally Posted By mele Oh, and I get that people think the SB is fun. I don't mean to say they're evil. I really don't enjoy sports so I don't get why people are so obsessed with them. Everybody has their hobbies. They're just not in line with anything Jesus would have taugh and it's wrong to interject religion into it, especially something as obscene as the SuperBowl.
Originally Posted By Darkbeer I am watching Headline News currently... They just covered the story, and CBS has stated that the dating site is more than wlecome to submit an alternate version that meets their standards.... IMHO, I doubt that will happen. ManCrunch got what it wanted, FREE advertising..... and won't pay the $2+ million for the Super Bowl Ad time.
Originally Posted By BlueDevilSF ManMunch woulda been better. Seems Mrs. Tebow might have lied by omission. When she was pregnant with her spawn, apparently she lived in the Philippines where abortion is illegal. She couldn't have gotten one there if she'd wanted...
Originally Posted By mele Yeah, I was reading about that. Seems like it would be hard to prove what her doctor said or didn't say. What I want to know is what illness she came down with that was so bad that any doctor would recommend abortion. I'd also like to know if she (and her son?) were paid to do the ad.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Apparently Gloria Allred is possibly suing CBS for false advertising" "(NB: An interesting post-script to CBS's ad conundrum: High-profile lawyer Gloria Allred has threatened to sue CBS if they air FOF's pro-life ad for "false advertising," as Tim Tebow's mother, who says she refused to abort her baby despite doctors' recommendations, couldn't have had a abortion in the Philippines without facing prison time, since abortions there for any reason are illegal. Some choice. "
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <First off, I am a FAN of Free Speech... And if the ad follows the policies of the network, and they have the money, it should air...... But did the Dating site SPECIFICALLY read the CBS policies and broke them JUST to make news?> Well... which CBS policy does this ad specifically break, Darkbeer? Is it against CBS policy to run a dating site ad? Obviously not. Is it against CBS policy to show two people making out? Obviously not. Is it against CBS policy to run an "advocacy ad?" They say so, despite deciding to run the Tebow ad, but this ad is not advocacy - it's for a private, commercial business. Is it against CBS policy to show two MEN making out? If so, a). I'd like to see this policy in writing, and b). if it exists it's clearly discriminatory. Now, this is quite apart from the merits of this ad itself, which I don't believe has many, if any at all. It relies for its punchline on "straight panic" (in the form of the guy shown at the end), and if you read some message boards, you'll see plenty of gay people arguing that it even seems to say that "you can catch 'the gay' just from touching another guy and that once gay you can't control yourself." Being happily married going on a dozen years I haven't needed any internet dating sites, but from what I read, this is a new and minor player that probably IS thrilled to get the controversy and not have to pony up $2 million plus to air it. But all that is aside from my point. What CBS policy did it supposedly violate? The only one I could see it violating would be a blatantly discriminatory one. I mean, SNL's (also network) "two gay guys from Jersey" do the same sort of exaggerated "making out" and that's shown... is it somehow "worse" that's it's on a commercial rather than programming? Why? Are commercials more "real" to Americans somehow?
Originally Posted By mele It's the family atmosphere of the SuperBowl. At least that's what we kept hearing with Janet's nipslip. Think of the families!!!
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones "It relies for its punchline on "straight panic" (in the form of the guy shown at the end), and if you read some message boards, you'll see plenty of gay people arguing that it even seems to say that "you can catch 'the gay' just from touching another guy and that once gay you can't control yourself." " Haha, see, this is the political correctness seeping in. The guy isn't necessarily freaked out because it's two guys making out, but because were supposed to be watching a football game. I would be just as uncomfortable if my buddy and his girlfriend were making out while watching the game (or an opera) because we didn't meet up to do that. It would be really annoying. It doesn't necessarily imply that you can catch the gay, but that you can fall madly in love with someone at first sight, just like in heterosexual love stories! How many movies and TV shows have we seen with flings and one night stands? But we can't portray gay dudes doing that? It's just a funny commercial. Why is everybody so uptight? If it's not one thing it's another. "It's the family atmosphere of the SuperBowl. At least that's what we kept hearing with Janet's nipslip. Think of the families!!!" Families love to hear horses farting too. Wasn't that a big ad during a previous Super Bowl?
Originally Posted By onlyme >>Families love to hear horses farting too. Wasn't that a big ad during a previous Super Bowl?<< hehehe... Yea, but I guess you're not aware that farting is macho, as well.
Originally Posted By barboy ///She couldn't have gotten one there(RP--- Rep. of Philippines) if she'd wanted.../// Wrong.....very, very wrong That is a very naive thing to write; she, like so many before and after her, could easily---yes, EASILY-- enlist the services of a medic to help out; it's done all the time here, ALL THE TIME. Now, if one were to inform The Star, Manila Times or GMA news about the procedure and disclose when, who and where then we got problems. I will say this: finding that RU 486 drug around here('black market' of course) can be a challenge. Furthermore, ""since abortions there(Philippines) for any reason are illegal"" is very misleading: All abortions are ***technically** illegal but under legitimate medical emergency/necessity around here it just isn't prosecuted unless there is some political angle/retribution going on........think more or less de facto legalization if there is a convincing medical need. Look, what are we arguing about???? Are we arguing about the official Rep. Phils. stance or are we arguing about whether or not abortion is available here?
Originally Posted By mawnck >>High-profile lawyer Gloria Allred has threatened to sue CBS if they air FOF's pro-life ad for "false advertising," as Tim Tebow's mother, who says she refused to abort her baby despite doctors' recommendations, couldn't have had a abortion in the Philippines without facing prison time, since abortions there for any reason are illegal.<< I assume it's not Tim Tebow's mother that's being advertised?
