Originally Posted By woody Would you describe it as Disney's version of ABC's Wisteria Lane (Desperate Housewives)? Call it Desperate Mouseears?
Originally Posted By smeeeko SeanYoda & I have often said if we were to move to FL we would move to Celebration. We wouldn't be snowbirds though. We'd actually get a condo/ townhouse or something and live there fulltime.. so it's some time in coming and until then I like to think that there will always be some folks who make it worth living there. =) Disney doesn't own the town of Celebration.. whether someone would want to have a DVC resort there I'm not aware of (they have PLENTY at WDW including Saratoga Springs.. so I don't see why there would need to be one off property). I think that if you are adults and don't have kids that have to go to the local grade schools I don't see why living in Celebration is such a bad thing. If you don't want to live there, don't. If you don't want to even go there, then don't. Why it upsets folks I don't know. There are SO MANY gated communities in the US and it seems like Celebration is just another option.
Originally Posted By Lake Nona >>Same can be said for the township now being developed in east Orlando, where Navy World used to be. That particular area is a carbon copy of Celebration and I would urge anyone who is interested or who likes Celebration to check that new town as well (sorry I can't remember the name of it now), located just behind the Orlando Fashion Square Mall on Colonial Drive, aka highway 50.<< TDLFAN... Is this Navy World used to be called NTC Orlando?
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> I've had way too many drunks relieving themselves on my stoop and leaving beer bottles trashed outside my door when I come home from work to not understand where Celebration folks are coming from) << THIS has happened to you in Celebration? (<--- joking!)
Originally Posted By smeeeko =) *grin* that WOULD make it more like a real neighborhood wouldn't it??
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <I also wouldn't pay $1 million for a home I could get elsewhere in Central Florida for $300,000-500,000. < shows the real estate increase in Florida over the past 10 years ! I remember pricing a David Weekly home in Celebration and considered buying almost 10 years ago -- that house which was $356,000 is 3x that today...
Originally Posted By SuperDry Celebration gives me the creeps. Every time I've visited I get a very uncomfortable feeling, as if the too-perfect facades are hiding some horror movie about to unfold, or some cult of of people that appear perfect on the outside. As far as having property values substantially higher than similar quality nearby, this is definately going to keep the crime rate down as it will change the demographic of who can afford to live there. Unfortunately that's not a very scalable solution to society's problems.
Originally Posted By DVC_dad If Nicole Kidman lives there..... *ahem* .... I mean if Joanna Eberhart lives there, I'm in!!!
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 My only problem with Celebration is I feel the land could have gone to better use. I think it's a very nice community. Too overpriced for me. Too Stepfordish for me too. But I have no problem with it. Other than I wish it hadn't of gotten built. Disney didn't need to build a community.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper Everyone on LP seems to go back to Walt's wishes whenever something they don't like comes up. Here the opposite is true. Walt wanted the community to be built. Sure, it isn't the exact plan he envisioned but it sure incorporates his dreams.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Hardly. Walt wanted a community to be a showcase for future technologies and cutting edge vision... Celebration is hardly that, but an overpriced community that offers nothing visionary.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper I wouldn't say it offered nothing visionary. In urban planning there is much that is visionary about the place. Is it Epcotish from a technology standpoint? No. But as far as planned communities it is right up there with other efforts in Florida including my own community. The school was intended to be visionary and I think the seeds were in place there but as history has proved it hasn't been without roadblocks. But, people keep moving in there and the community seems to be going quite nicely. I'd say that got something right. Now, you may call those residents suckers but others would argue that people who pay $60 to go to amusement parks are suckers too.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss I'd recommend a watching of the EPCOT film that Walt made just before he passed away, to get a clearer idea of what his vision was. Some of the ideas were radical; the roads underneath the city center, monorails and peoplemovers providing the bulk of the transportation needs within the community, and possibly even a dome covering it all. But a lot of his ideas weren't all that cutting edge. He had a city center, surrounded by high density housing (apartment towers), which were surrounded by single family homes... the suburbs. Very much 50's and 60's urban planning. Celebration is (or at least is a vision of) new urban planning. It doesn't have monorails, or streets underground, but it's layout is designed on a more human scale. Walt's EPCOT was rather the opposite. Celebration is a town, ECOT was a city.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper What the post Walt leadership at Disney understood is that you cannot control human behavior no matter what kind of homeowner's documents you draw up. A private entity owning all that is "public" would have been difficult to pull off.
Originally Posted By hopemax >As far as having property values substantially higher than similar quality nearby, this is definately going to keep the crime rate down as it will change the demographic of who can afford to live there. Or, as they say in Top Gun, provides a "target rich environment." I live in a zipcode (not in Florida) with very high property values, and there is a lot of personal property crime (although very low violent crime). I finally drove through Celebration over Christmas. It's very pretty, very Wisteria Lane. But it didn't strike me as a fulfillment of Walt's dreams, except on a very, very broad level. Yes, it's a community designed in part by Disney. Walt seemed to be interested in improving the quality of life for the common man through partnership with industry and ingenuity. Celebration seemed to be about improving the quality of life for people rich enough to not be bothered by the "premium pricing." If I were to play the "if Walt were alive today" game, I think he would be far more impressed with something like Habitat for Humanity than Celebration.
Originally Posted By Disneymom443 I've asked my husband if we could retire to Celebration, he just said when the time comes he'll talk about it. Hum.. well I guess it's better than a no.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Reconcider. There are so much better places to retire than Celebration, or even outside FL. I'd retire to Hawaii in a heartbeat.
