Originally Posted By imadisneygal "If this is the way you feel about it, then why are we still rehashing the reason to invade Iraq? Saddam's killings resembles a small scale genocide, yet the same leftists who hate the Iraq War want our involvement in Darfur." I think many people who supported the war in the beginning and wanted Saddam and his regime gone are now questioning our continued involvement there. They have a government, too. A popularly elected one. So let's get out (at least that's the point of view of some people). No, we cannot afford to save the world. But involvement in Darfur would not be as complicated or as financially intensive as Iraq. I cannot believe that any American in good conscience can stand by and say, "they have a government...let them solve it themselves." Genocide, people. About 150K people so far this calendar year! How does anyone reconcile in their mind that we should do nothing?! I don't necessarily think that mentioning oil implies less than noble reasons for invading Iraq (although I think it's part of the equation) but it is most definitely part of our continued occupation over there - and our lack of any action in Darfur. It sickens me to hear anyone say "give me a break" about people wanting the United States to step in and stop genocide. If we had done something during WWII instead of ignoring what we knew about the murders going on there we might have saved millions of lives. This isn't about Iraq, or Iran. It's about hundreds of thousands of people dying and us standing around saying, "not our job!" It's inhumane. Joe, to answer your question about money...well, I don't have an answer. But I know that we could find the money if our government wanted to do something about it badly enough. If a dictator was killing hundreds of thousands of people in a country that had lots of oil you can bet we'd find the money...oh, wait...we already did. Lack of state and local funding for schools isn't really the reason we won't get involved, although I agree that our public school system needs fixing and our teachers are underpaid. I don't know what the answer is to the money question, but if we wanted to find it we could. I can't believe any American would say, "Well, it's not our problem." It's that kind of blindness and ignorance that led to the murders of 11 million people in the 40's. Apparently it's alright with them if it happens again.
Originally Posted By woody >>I cannot believe that any American in good conscience can stand by and say, "they have a government...let them solve it themselves."<< Just you wait. It will happen. Darfur is no different than Somalia in some respects. We will be mired in a cesspool than cannot be fixed quickly especially since quick results is what the public can only accept. >>It sickens me to hear anyone say "give me a break" about people wanting the United States to step in and stop genocide. If we had done something during WWII instead of ignoring what we knew about the murders going on there we might have saved millions of lives.<< The nature of war has changed. WWII is about a war against the German and Japanese governments. Get rid of the governments, the problem was solved. Darfur is more complicated. As for the "give me a break" comment, there needs to be acknowledgement that the Iraq War serves a noble purpose from the left. Otherwise, it won't make sense to enter into another war that has no strategic objectives. >>This isn't about Iraq, or Iran. It's about hundreds of thousands of people dying and us standing around saying, "not our job!" It's inhumane.<< I think its really funny that the leftists thought our policy about Iraq was containment. Yeah, contain Saddam to murder his own citizens. The leftists would still be "standing around" saying and doing as you stated. I do think Darfur is frustrating. However, I don't see how we can be involved with our political climate.
