Originally Posted By Tinkerbell819 I thought that, too Lisann, I was wondering if he had a concert tour coming up that he forgot about. Or, maybe that show his family had on A&E was going back into production.
Originally Posted By Fe Maiden ^^^My wife also thought that he was bailing out on purpose. I tend to disagree, with the enormous ego that he travels with I have no doubt that he truly believes he knows what's best for Kodak, you, me, the US of A, and the rest of the known universe.
Originally Posted By Tinkerbell819 You're right, FeMaiden, he sure doesn't seem like he'd want to lose on purpose, that's for sure. But, he was so foolish on bringing those 2 in the boardroom if he wanted to keep going. He was still going on about how Kodak was wrong when he was in the limo, though, so you may be right. I don't think he had come to the realization that the campaign was about the ink and not Kodak's new slogan.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<I don't think he had come to the realization that the campaign was about the ink and not Kodak's new slogan.>> It wasn't about either of those things. It was about making the Judges, i.e. the Kodak executives, happy. But Gene wasn't interested in what the execs wanted, he only saw his vision. Certainly from the point of view of winning on Celebrity Apprentice he made a bunch of errors, but on the other hand, it was a very Wlat Disney-esque way of doing things... he had his vision and no one was going to mess with it regardless of what any experts were telling him. I'm sorry to see the mad Gene-ius leave.
Originally Posted By cstephens Because the women have suffered two devastating defeats, Donald Trump offers Gene Simmons the challenge of being the project manager for Empresario on the next project, which Simmons accepts. Each team will be provided with an air stream trailer, and they need to create an "experience" to sell Kodak's new printer. The presentation of the task actually seemed confusing to me - it took me a while to figure out exactly what it was they were supposed to do. The men come up with an idea but through a serious mishap, they lose much of their data and have to do a makeshift job in completing the project. Simmons on the other hand zeroes in on the product and a tag line. The men's project seems sloppy and haphazard. The women's project seems much more put together and professional. But in the end, the Kodak executives wanted to emphasize the new printer's lower-priced ink as a selling point, so even though the men's presentation was much sloppier, they did focus on that point. Simmons only sent two women to attend the meeting with the Kodak executives, who were put off not only by that but also because they didn't feel that the two women listened to them during that meeting. The women's project emphasized a re-branding of the Kodak product at large instead of the ink that the executives wanted to focus on. In addition, the men ended up selling more because Daniel Baldwin called brother Alec, who apparently bought a few of them for an exhorbitant price. Alec's appearance seemed totally out of place, especially since, unlike with the hot dog challenge, celebrity and contacts really didn't seem to have a place in this challenge. Simmons is defiant in the boardroom and absolutely refuses to admit that he did anything wrong, instead insisting that the Kodak executives were wrong in not knowing how to market their own product. Trump points out a few of the women that he thinks might have contributed to the loss, but Simmons refuses to pass along any blame and instead holds fast to his position and in the end, brings back with him the two women least responsible for the outcome of the challenge. Trump has no choice but to fire Simmons. Simmons' move to bring back two women that Trump couldn't possibly fire seemed like a suicide move. Some have speculated that he was done with the show and just wanted out. To me, it seemed like he was just grandstanding, that he was absolutely not going to admit he was wrong in any way. He might have come up with the better campaign, but he didn't come up with what the clients asked for. It was funny to listen to his bravado during the challenge, but his refusal to come off that in the boardroom cemented his ouster. I'm also wondering how much of it was that he wanted to be kicked off the show on his own terms. Sure, he was technically "fired", but you could say that he didn't completely deserve to be fired, even though he was the one who had come up with the overall plan. But absent his bringing back two people Trump could absolutely not fire, who knows how long Simmons would have been in the game, not to mention if or when he might make a big enough mistake that would actually warrant his firing. I heard him on a radio show this morning, and he was maintaining the same position, that he was right and the Kodak executives were wrong, and he was taking total responsibility for the outcome and wasn't going to lay the blame on any of the women. /cs
Originally Posted By Tinkerbell819 <<Daniel Baldwin called brother Alec>> Actually, Daniel is the Baldwin brother that is on Celebrity Rehab, Stephen is the one on Celebrity Apprentice. (Thursday night is Baldwin brother night, Alex is on 30 Rock at 8:30, Stephen is on Celeb. App. at 9:00 and Daniel is on Celeb. Rehab at 10! I know their brother William is on a show on ABC, but I don't know what night that one is on.) I loved your recap! Tonight was good. I really like all the guys and I think they work well together. Although, next week it looks like there's a fallout. (Of course, it could end up being nothing, all hype to get us to watch.) I never watched the App. before, so I don't know if there's a reason that there is a different business man there every week, but Ivanka is there each week. The first week Donald Trump's son was there, I thought he'd be there every week. Do they do that during the regular Apprentice? (I actually like that there's someone different there each time.)
Originally Posted By cstephens Tinkerbell819 wrote: > Actually, Daniel is the Baldwin brother that is on Celebrity Rehab, Stephen is the one on Celebrity Apprentice. Thanks for the correction. I was thinking I wasn't sure I had the right one but was too lazy to check. I know Alec but I can't remember the difference between the other ones. /cs
Originally Posted By trekkeruss Really, the only difference between Omarosa, Jennie, and Carol is that Omarosa has an inflated opinion of herself. Did she really add more value than what either of the other two women offered? Not that I could see. She merely attacks to deflect attention away from her own shortcomings. Unfortunately, it frequently works.
Originally Posted By Tinkerbell819 Marilu said Omarosa was a "cancer" bringing them down, but then didn't bring her into the boardroom. (?) Jennie really didn't get a chance to prove herself b/c of the 3 that wanted to take over everything. I was disappointed she didn't bring Omarosa and Nelly with her instead.
Originally Posted By SFH Remember that we ware seeing only a little bit of what actually goes on. SFH
Originally Posted By trekkeruss Fifteen minutes into tonight's two-hour episode, and it's shaping up to be awesome!
Originally Posted By Tinkerbell819 I missed the first half hour, but I will watch it in the am. Really good show! Where was the blonde boxer guy, Tito? Next week it looks like the arguments will continue.
Originally Posted By SFH As you probably know by now, Tito was away at a fight. I could see the ending coming the moment the song started playing. Hilarious. Perhaps one of the more interesting episodes ever of Apprentice. I wanted to know how Trump would react to what happened. SFH
Originally Posted By Tinkerbell819 Is anyone still watching? Omorosa (sp?) was especially annoying tonight. It was quite a show.
Originally Posted By Tinkerbell819 I felt bad for Piers, you could see how exasperated he was. Here, he's participating in a show for charity and has to put up with her insulting him and his family, that she knows nothing about.
Originally Posted By EdisYoda I'm watching it right now on tape, and I can't believe those two. They both should be fired. And, I can't believe that Hydra won the challenge.
Originally Posted By Tinkerbell819 I hope she gets fired before he does, though. I may be very tired now and not thinking straight, but I actually kind of like Piers and want him to do well.
Originally Posted By Gatsby She's F I R E D !!! Is anyone watching this besides me? Ivanka Trump (Donald's Daughter) is the most attractive gal on TV. She reminds me of a very young Marlo Thomas. Her hair style is different enough to be classy, yet a hint of 70's-ish-ness to look classic. Her voice and features really take me back to the "That Girl" age. What a sweet heart! She is the perfect example of how money (but without surgery) can really make the girl next door look amazingly beautiful. Omarosa finally got axed last night and she accused Perice of being "in the closet." So to spite her, he came back to the board room and KISSED Trace on the cheek! Never kiss a cowboy. How funny. I cannot stand Omarosa. I'm so glad she is gone. She should have been gone after episode one, but Trump protected her.
