Originally Posted By WorldDisney Yeah, the POTC sequal was AWFUL!!!! How it made so much money is beyound me.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo I think I actually prefer the sequel to the orginal and I can't wait for number 3! But I disagree with Lee. I think DLP's IASW is the best. PotC ties with California, and I love Phantom Manor!!! But that's just me. We need to have a coffee and debate soon Lee!
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORWEN: I remember seeing an episode of The Wonderful World of Color as Uncle Walt was explaining the magic of going up a waterfall for his newest attraction at Disneyland--Pirates of the Caribbean. No doubt Imagineers wanted to have this feature in the Paris version of the ride as if to show respect and admiration for the original master of entertainment. It's a shame that some ducklings can't appreciate the original thinking of the person who brought Disney theme parks to life in the first place. ORDDU: Walt Disney World's version of Pirates has a very unimaginative ending, if you ask us. It ends very bluntly and makes you feel as though the ride broke down and that you need to evacuate the attraction before it's really finished.
Originally Posted By LindsayC I don’t think it has anything to do with respect for the original idea - being pulled up out of the attraction at Disneyland works to take you out of the story (and is even better now with the Davy Jones narration) - being taken up into the story at the start of the DLP Pirates was done purely to present the opportunity to give a different perspective to the battle scene. It doesn’t work for me because you have just floated past the Blue Lagoon restaurant and then proceed up hill.
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 I also don't see how the artistic style of It's a Small World would be comprimised if they didn't recreate Disneyland's exactly. WDW and TDL both have flooded show buildings, while still having all of the original Mary Blair styles in tact. In fact, TDL even has the DL facade! So, it's entirely possible, and would seem to make more sense to have it entirely indoors since HK can have such dismal weather. They're really going to have to cover those outdoor flumes like DLP did, and that alone will be different from the DL original.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN LindsayC always brightens up a thread. He's so nice! Anyways... just getting another ride built for HKDL is a triumph, so whatever they decide to do with IASW, I don't care, as long as it turns out to be a nicely done addition.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros "It ends very bluntly and makes you feel as though the ride broke down and that you need to evacuate the attraction before it's really finished." I've never heard it described like that before, but it is exactly how I feel every time I get off. It just leaves me with the feeling of "...and?" that just sort of confuses me for a while, until I forget about it.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<The killer for me on POTC is that the boat immediately goes up a tractor climb into the fort. When do boats ever go uphill? It works at DL at the end as that is the resolution of the attraction. I also don't like having the caverns at the end. Makes little sense to me.>> The boats going uphill don't bother me one bit ... it's DL(P) ... why can't a boat travel uphill? As for the caverns at the end, the story plays out in more of a linear timeline fashion. You see the Pirates alive and doing what they did ... then you see the result. In my mind, it makes more sense than the other versions. <<I must admit I hate Phantom Manor. It is just a glorified Haunted House attraction and the ending is just ghastly. I personally think they destroyed everything that is amazing about the Haunted Mansion there. The storyline just doesn't hold together and isn't well told at all.>> Again, I disagree (it does feel like all is right in the world again). PM carries a story through where there really isn't one stateside ... except for the stuff that fanboys created thru the years, which isn't accurate and why WDI has changed the attic scene in Anaheim to try and tell a story a bit. I absolutely love the DLP versions ... as well as the DL ones ... as well as the MK ones (although it would be nice if they got the TLC they so very much require). I'm glad they aren't all the same. And I'm hoping the PoC for HKDL will truly be the hybrid Pirate Mountain tyoe concept being talked about.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Anyways... just getting another ride built for HKDL is a triumph, so whatever they decide to do with IASW, I don't care, as long as it turns out to be a nicely done addition.>> That's for sure.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORGOCH: By the time Ping Pong Dizzyland gits 'round ta buildin' a complete park, we's all gonna' be lyin' inside a pine box somewhere's six feet under!!
Originally Posted By irishfan I've never had an issue with the boats travelling up hill at DLP, and in some ways it actually makes sense when you read the explanation given by the imagineers. Your boat enters the old fortress, where you pass by an abandoned loading deck where supplies for the fortress were recieved. You pass by a winch which was used to hoist cargo up to the upper levels in the fortress.....Suddenly your boat gets ensnared in a chain lift mechanism and gets hauled up a dark cargo ramp.....
Originally Posted By TDLFAN ^^^BTW... major petpeeve here. The movable chains that appear to help crack the boats uphill have not been working for quite some times. The illusion of being pulled upwards is lost when these breakdowns in show occur.
Originally Posted By SuperDry But glaring and routine non-op show pieces are normal for DLP, aren't they? I was very surprised to see how many I noticed just from casual observation from my short visit there - far more than any other Disney park.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Agreed with you^^^^ on this one totally SD. Yet one more example of what I commented on in my recent DLP trip report in the DLP section here...(go check it out). DLP's maintenance makes the MK look in good shape at times.
Originally Posted By tonyanton The one big difference I remember of the DLP iasw is that it's one giant showroom, as opposed to different rooms for each region/continent with definite water to ceiling walls. Personally, I like the DL trough version of iasw, as you get a much more intimate experience with the show. I do wish they would hide the few instances where you see some supports, etc., but it never detracted too much for me. I think the WDW version loses a bit of the charm in spots as the boats are a bit distanced from the show. Just my opinion...
Originally Posted By TDLFAN ^^^Same at TDL's, which is a virtual copy of the WDW one. Exactly alike in every way, except the loading platform.
Originally Posted By mickeyfantasmic DLP is also the only version top have a full American room (even Tokyo doesn't have the USA featured). The DLP version is much brighter than the others, majorly tahnks to the blue walls/backgrounds used opposed to the black ones the other 3 versions have. I have always prefered theDLP version but it is a question of personal taste.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN TDL's IASW is an exact replica of the MK version, and yes.. DLP's is unique to has the North American scenes.
Originally Posted By Mr X Lee, you never really answered SuperDry's comments completely, did you? Maybe you could go back and read again, and answer more fully (at least, I'd be interested in hearing your complete answers to his well thought out questions...if you don't mind and have the time...)
Originally Posted By leemac ^^ Sorry X I don't know which ones you are referring to. Cut and paste them into another post and I'll happily answer them if I can.
