Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Buzz and TSM are full of toons. I meant an attraction that is NOT Toon fueled or thrill based. Cinemagique, Moteurs Action, and Armageddon seem to be the only attractions that do not fit into that mold.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 Armeggedon was kind of boring to me, I absolutely adored Cinemagique though. I am hoping that eventually a version of this makes its way to DCA or even DIsney Studios at WDW.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo I doubt we will ever see Cinemagique outside of Paris. Besides the licencing issues and costs, the locals at DL would poo poo it, and I don't think it would play well to the WDW demo.
Originally Posted By dshyates Oh, I can see them putting it into DHS as a 3D CG film starring Mickey and intergrate the film with multiple moving faced rubberheads.
Originally Posted By plpeters70 "Of course, the masses of people who come to the parks seem to love the characters everywhere, so perhaps "we" are the minority now." I was wondering about this - are we really the minority here? I mean, I know that the masses want to see cartoon characters when they go to Disney parks, but would they be satisfied with just walk-arounds and shows, or do they need tons of cartoon rides as well? I agree that there should be some cartoon-based rides - in appropriate areas like Fantasyland, or the Animation section at The Studios, but must they be everywhere? Like I said before, people seemed to enjoy Disney parks for over 40 years with the character rides only in Fantasyland -- wouldn't they still enjoy them now if Disney stuck to that principle??
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORWEN: I'd say that--over the years--more people have become more aware of the Disney characters than ever and that's why they all have more fans than ever. So the average theme park guest just expects a Disney theme park to have a lot going on with the many different Disney characters. All the Disney Stores sure helped to promote people's awareness of the characters in the late 80's and 90's. Before then, I don't think there was nearly so much awareness of them. So, it's been a gradual education. ORDDU: Obviously there is a certain percentage of Disney fans out there who admire Disney for reasons OTHER than the Disney characters and they are the one's who seem most troubled by all the recent emphasis on character based attractions, etc. But for those of us who are into Disney BECAUSE of the characters, this is the time to celebrate--as long as good quality attractions are being developed, too. And THAT is the main thing to concern a coven of witches from Morva.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 Two of the most-popular attractions at WDW now ... and ever added ... are Soarin and Expedition Everest ... except for a tiny Tink cameo in Soarin, no characters anywhere. Adding them is just plain lazy. Period. It's saying 'this is the easy way out, we can get the beancounters approval based on all the merchandising opps and marketing and synergy will love this.' Worse the additions haven't just been bad ... they've been insulting ... Iago barking at you in Tiki Room ... Stitch belching in your face ... yeah, that's great entertainment right there.
Originally Posted By dshyates "Stitch belching in your face". How far off is a disgusting Pumbaa encounter.
Originally Posted By barboy "That's just ridiculous. Pooh can't be president. He wasn't born in the United States" Actually, Art. II of the Const., which addresses presidential qualifications, talks about the "natural born Citizen" meaning citizen at birth and does not reference specifically ***where*** someone is born.
Originally Posted By Elderp "That's just ridiculous. Pooh can't be president. He wasn't born in the United States" Yeah, everyone knows Pooh was made in China.
Originally Posted By Daannzzz Over the years on the different message boards I have seen how the cartoon characters ARE Disney for some people. At Walt Disney World they build many beautiful and themed resorts. For me a themed environment done by Disney can be awesome. Port Orleans Riverside. <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/wesisrad/283412106/" target="_blank">http://www.flickr.com/photos/w...3412106/</a> Yes there are many people who have stayed at Riverside and the other moderate and deluxe hotels who say that they are not Disney enough and that this is what they want. <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/andy_roberts/115406889/" target="_blank">http://www.flickr.com/photos/a...5406889/</a> For lots of people (not necissarily the majority) Disney thememing means characters and cartoons not just times and places.
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 To each his own. And I thank Disney for having something for each taste. Poly is my favorite, but one daughter prefers the Contemporary, another likes the Carribean. The other daughter would like to stay at the Living Seas. But we all enjoy WDW. And I like the new format for LP, preview message, great idea. Thanks.
Originally Posted By MPierce ^^^ The preview message is nice isn't it bobbelee9. I'll still mess up when posting though. It's my nature. Personally I think there are more than enough character based attractions already.
Originally Posted By mickeyboy43 I think characters must be had somewhere in the parks, and take a sort of visual role, since "it all started with a mouse". But the production of non-character based stuff is good. Actually... I was talking with a friend of mine at school today when he noted my watch. It was the black and white Classic Mickey Mouse one that you used to get for around $80 on Main Street. Hes normally critical of my likeing of Disney, but he said all the classical stuff is really nice and remniscient of a past era. Furthermore, he said that if Disney didnt promote so much stupid stuff on TV and elsewhere these days, he might ask his parents to go again. Im not sure, but the is a teen saying this. And I think this might be the overall trend of teens that Disney needs to look into for "our" market.
Originally Posted By Skellington88 Nobody complains that Haunted Mansion, Big Thunder, Space Mountain, Country Bear jamboree, and a boatload of other rides dont have charecter tie-ins. If you build a great attraction you don't need to tie it into a movie or existing property. The problem is Imagineering is just too darn lazy to make anything original and worthwhile (except for Joe Rhode and the tokyo disney team)
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 Mickeyboy, this old lady doesn't mean to sound like she's type-casting, but I thought all the thrill rides (that I won't do) were to induce your generation to go to the parks. Or are you referring to merchandising?
Originally Posted By MPierce The boat ride from the Wilderness Lodge to the MK is all the thrills I need. Now if I want to get supercharged I jump on TTA. People of all ages love Disney. You either get it or you don't. If you want thrill ride after thrill ride you go to Six Flags if you want more teen merchandise you go to the Mall(even though I believe WDW could do a far better job with their choices). WDW has to appeal to a broad spectrum of people which is not an easy job, however they can't appeal to everyone.
