Originally Posted By DAR I know what you meant. <<<<Is getting distracted in a good way by the Martina McBride ad.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 You'd be bitter too if your stocks are dropping hard because of the drawdown in Iraq. Whenever you listen to Dick Cheney speak , remember, he has only the interests of Haliburton and his pocket book in mind.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <They didn't tell the American people to prepare for war, didn't institute a draft, didn't levy taxes for a war.> Boy howdy. In fact, it was just the opposite. For the first time in our history (!) we cut taxes in a time of war - primarily for those people most able to pay them.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>You'd be bitter too if your stocks are dropping hard because of the drawdown in Iraq.<< Good point. Plus, he's anxious to rewrite history, trying to make the Bush administration responsible for none of the economic mess whatsoever. And he might have gotten away with it, too, if it hadn't been for you meddling teenagers!
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 I am one of the believers that Pres. Bush was a good person, he was just corrupted by Cheney and friends... I despise Cheney more than any other person on this planet... Noone has profited more from the conflicts our military is currently engaged in, and I mean noone...
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan I think there's a lot to that, William. I never doubted Cheney was running the show all along for the most part, misleading and misdirecting Bush with a lot of flim flam. If he'd have jettisoned Cheney in 2004, I think his second term might have been very different indeed. We see now what a petulant little troll Cheney truly is, peeing and moaning as he does. He also had zero respect for the Constitution and felt his office existed in some free-for-all zone of lawlessness. Can you imagine what he must have been like when cameras weren't around?
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy << I am one of the believers that Pres. Bush was a good person, he was just corrupted by Cheney and friends... >> A good person would not allow himself to be corrupted that way.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 << I am one of the believers that Pres. Bush was a good person, he was just corrupted by Cheney and friends... >> A good person would not allow himself to be corrupted that way. << I am one of the believers that Pres. Bush was a good person, he was just corrupted by Cheney and friends... >> A good person would not allow himself to be corrupted that way. << not true, many a good person has been manipulated by evil.
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy << not true, many a good person has been manipulated by evil. >> At that point, they cease being good. Either that, or you are insinuating that President Bush was a complete moron and incapable of recognizing the evil surrounding him and pulling his puppet strings. I'll give him enough credit to say that he was just above moron status and knew exactly what was going on around him.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 I think he was manipulated by those who wanted to abuse the office of the President. Granted, he will be the one who will ultimately pay for those decisions by his tarnished legacy, but I don't think he would have been so bad had he a different VP..
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy << Granted, he will be the one who will ultimately pay for those decisions by his tarnished legacy, but I don't think he would have been so bad had he a different VP.. >> If George W. Bush was independently capable of being president, I would agree. The fact of the matter is that he just wasn't a very capable person. He had very little intellectual ability or drive. He never showed any real interest or curiosity in policy. From the outset, he was a brand name candidate promoted by big business and conservatives to be their puppet in the White House. He rode on his daddy's coattails into politics without ever having to formulate any substantive ideas of his own. He raised tons of money based on name recognition and a large rolodex of contributors to his father's political career. If it had not been Cheney, it would have been another crony from his daddy's past or purely a conservative ideologue. The difference would have been inconsequential.
