Originally Posted By vbdad55 based on my knowledge of unions ( and have had union workers in family) - it is always not quite as simple on either side of the argument. I expect them to do =exactly what they are doing based on their history and goals...and I expect others today to question the viability of these options as well as the affordability. Neither side is an angel and neither side is the devil..BUT the loser all too often ends upo being the other 90 % of the population... mY Dad went on strike many years ago when I was little for 9 months - only strike pay and we lost our home despite him working 2 part time jobs( that he had to keep secret from the union or lose his strike money) - and when they went back they went back for less money anyway. The union leaders however never suffer in any of this- the rank and file does. so my issue ( and I have other examples) is that these types of actions rarely result in anything other than pain, even though I may understand some ( not all) of the reasoning behind it. what I am seeing, and if you read the papers a lot is an anti government worker and anti union sentiment based on lucrative penson plans that taxpayers are on the hook for that no longer exist in the private sector- and at the % level never did. NO one cried a river when companies like mine yanked out pension plans and courts upheld - yet now when compromise is sought for actuarially unsound pension plans ( not counting what some governments stole from them never to be returned) - there is little and what is setting up is a class warfare as rhetoric heats up. What the Givernor of Wisconsin did to me was very much akin to the boycott calls and strike actions of the unions. I didn;t like it but much like the unions, he will claim he had no other choice. You and I both know there is plenty of ground for compromise - but all or nothing is the rule So I get concerned when I see calls like this for boycotting a state like Florida that relies on toruism as it's #1 income. The people who will be hurt the most are none of the major combatants- it's the common person. The reason I think this call could widen and actually have some effect is because of the mood of the country and the escalating class warefare -- that's why I posted it- because I'm aware of previous boycott Disney calls and their apparant lack of success- but just think this one could escalate and potentially be an issue
Originally Posted By vbdad55 as this goes on it likely belongs in W/E only- however my concern is that most people do not go there ( and I totally understand that too) - and I jut thought this was something that could escalate that could be a business model issue down the road.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>So I get concerned when I see calls like this for boycotting a state like Florida that relies on toruism as it's #1 income. The people who will be hurt the most are none of the major combatants- it's the common person.<< True, but the theory goes that the average person, not wanting to bear the brunt of such an economic loss, would then engage with their state politicians and pressure them to reconsider their union-busting activities. And that a politician, wanting to be re-elected, would need to not make life harder on the voters of his state. >>The reason I think this call could widen and actually have some effect is because of the mood of the country and the escalating class warefare --<< Sure, but that isn't coming from nothing. You have elected officials openly engaging in union-busting tactics, blaming every state's economic problems on government employees. At some point, unions will push back against that. For what it's worth, until your posts about it, I had no idea unions were asking for a boycott of Florida and other vacation spots. But honestly, there are so many calls for boycotts from all corners these days, it's hard to keep track.
Originally Posted By The Goofy One <<The people who will be hurt the most are none of the major combatants- it's the common person.>> That's why I never understood the boycott. You're doing damage to resturant owner, the baggage handler at the airport. But I don't like talking politics so I'll stop.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom These boycotts are getting to be crazy. It's like the boy who cried wolf. At some point it all starts getting redundant. Right now I'm suppose to be boycotting, BP, Target, Chick fil a, McDonalds, cities boycotting the state of Arizonia and I guess now after that incident this past week, IHOP. Has the boycott on french wine been lifter?
Originally Posted By leobloom >> did you read the article befor asking ? Or look at the picture in the Chicago Paper- large picture of Cindy's Castle and huge push in press and on air by Chicago union leaders and some Pol's to avoid vacationing in Florida/ Wisconsin and Ohio for their anti union stances THATS what it has to do with WDW.. << I couldn't tell what the title of the thread meant. So they're encouraging people to boycott Florida? 1) WDW isn't the equivalent of Florida, and 2) This state deserves it, considering the lunatic we have serving as governor (at least until he's arrested for doing something illegal). Yeah, I can see how this belongs in the WDW section. After all, there's not much else to talk about. Mildew smells? Expensive spa rooms? Dreams of "Lucas Land"? My gosh, what dreck.
Originally Posted By standor In Michigan Republican Govener Snyder is trying to take away everything from the working class so he can give it to the rich. He is cutting allowances to the schools by about $400 per pupil and cutting allotments to the colleges and universities. With all that, the University of Michigan is having him as the keynote speaker at the graduation and they are giving him an honorary degree. For the life of me, why is the university honoring him while he is cutting their throats.
