Originally Posted By metalman I don't associate myself with any religion and even I find the hypocrisy of this topic laughable. TC creates a topic supposedly preaching tolerance yet lumps all Christians together as "vile creatures" because of the actions of one group. I have plenty of Christian friends apparently a lot more tolerant than you so please do not insult them just at Focus on the Family insults so many others.
Originally Posted By Autopia Deb Plus one! I get so tired of the generalizations around here. Christians are hateful, Republicans are stupid. Please stop pretending your tolerant when you spew hate at entire groups of people just because some vocal factions spew hateful, ignorant garbage. You sound like Kindergarten bullies calling the kid who's different a doodie head.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Then may I ask for similar non-lumping for those of us who are both liberal and Christian and have taken pains more times than we can count to point out that there are many types of Christians, both to liberal "lumpers" and to those (mostly not here any more, like Beau) who insisted that one could not be liberal and "truly Christian?" And for those of us who have Republican family members we love who have also taken pains to distinguish between everyday Republicans and the current leadership? Because the above kind of lumped us all together.
Originally Posted By metalman >>Because the above kind of lumped us all together.<< I don't see how my, or Autopia Deb's comments did such lumping, but yes. The lumping of all groups (religious, political, racial, etc) needs to stop entirely.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 "I get so tired of the generalizations around here" is itself a generalization. Also, I'm pretty sure the OP was referring more specifically to the groups referenced in his link, though the topic title could make that confusing.
Originally Posted By Autopia Deb I know several atheist conservatives and Christian liberals, so lumping any of those groups into another isn't something I do. If you think I am one sided because I don't call out the conservatives here, it's because their are only two here who really indulge in the name calling and I don't interact with either because one parrots what his church tells him and the others is a troll.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 < If you think I am one sided because I don't call out the conservatives here> I didn't say anything about that. I was taking issue with you saying "I get so tired of the generalizations around here. Christians are hateful, Republicans are stupid" and not directing that at anyone specific, thus making it sound as if we all do it - a lumping together. You haven't been around as long as some of us, but there are definitely liberals here who have pointed out countless times that zillions of Christians are not hateful, and that everyday Republicans should be distinguished from the current leadership.
Originally Posted By Autopia Deb I apologize for making it sound like everyone in WE does it, that was not my intention. But it gets frustrating to see it so often and then get responses like "I'm tired of suffering fools gladly" when I point it out. I honestly appreciate it when posters like yourself and 2ooney call for civility in the language.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan The bullying issue is one of those issues where you'd think, "Gee, everyone would agree bullying is bad, right?" Honestly, if we can't have common ground on that, what hope is there for finding it on anything? I spent a couple of years being bullied. A lot of people who have been bullied claim that persevering through that sort of experience builds character and so forth. I couldn't disagree more. Years later, I'm angry thinking back about that time, and that adults in a position to stop it seemed mostly indifferent. "Boys will be boys, it's all part of growing up" was the attitude. I never felt as worthless as I did during that time. I don't think I gained anything from being bullied, and what I dealt with was nothing compared to what students thought of as gay went through. That's why it angers me that some like Focus on the Family would but their agenda ahead of protecting kids from being bullied. It's sickening and isn't "Christian" in any way that I can understand.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 "I honestly appreciate it when posters like yourself and 2ooney call for civility in the language." And I appreciate that response. And 2oony- great post.
