Originally Posted By MPierce >> That would be good MPierce as modern Disney has conditioned me to have low expectations << Set your standards low, and hope they can be achieved.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 >> That would be good MPierce as modern Disney has conditioned me to have low expectations << ------- it's a world of low expectations is it not ? politics- expect the lowest of the low to be brought out- and expect nothing from your representatives and then you may not be disappointed... change- expect nothing - get nothing. TV shows - expect cheap reality TV - expect no new ideas so when you read they're thinking of a 'new' Munsters series that is hip and edgy - you realize there is almost no creativity left. PotC 14..coming to t atheatre near you in 2025. general public behavior- expect boorish and slovenly and you'll likely not be disappointed. take your pick- so singling out Disney ( which sometimes does go lower than they should, but sometimes still exceeds) seems to make no sense. Yes, I hold them to a higher standard also..but the 'new reality' out there is crappy everywhere
Originally Posted By MPierce >> take your pick- so singling out Disney ( which sometimes does go lower than they should, but sometimes still exceeds) seems to make no sense. Yes, I hold them to a higher standard also..but the 'new reality' out there is crappy everywhere << It is sad that I become excited when my expectations are met or exceeded nowadays. Since Disney is the focus of our discussion, and since we are all Disney fans, and since we know what Disney is capable of that would most likely be the focus of our anger, rather than how the rest of the real world is.
Originally Posted By leobloom For once I wasn't remotely responsible for these ADMIN'd comments. I feel disappointed in myself.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>><a href="http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:BxaFO7vsdaVNZM:http://images.memegenerator.net/Spongebob-Face/ImageMacro/2075967/the-see-me-trollin-they-hatin.jpg&t=1<<<<" target="_blank">http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q...<<</a> HAH!
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >> Okay...I know I shouldn't do this, because you are an obvious troll, but I digress. << The jt04 of Lp. lovely.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 >>>You're just as dumb as Spirit, TDLFAN, Davewasbaloo and all the other overly-negative losers around here.<<< <<How is it that you are not banned? >> I kinda like Phil ... he's so predictable ... and I think he is Doobie's lawn-man, so he gets to hang in the LP taking shots. Hey Phil ... have you ever kissed a girl before? A guy? A Duffy plush?
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 >> Okay...I know I shouldn't do this, because you are an obvious troll, but I digress. << <<The jt04 of Lp. lovely. >> Yeah, but he's fun ...
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Re post 42 - and this is why I think I am depressed. Disney used to cheer me up when the rest of the world couldn't, sadly that no longer happens, in fact because it doesn't, it disappoints me even more. I hate reality TV, I despise the right wing, I lament the lack of community respect, and I am not big on sequels, I hate toons in my parks, and dumbed down menues for those that lack a decent pallette.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 Re post 42 - and this is why I think I am depressed. Disney used to cheer me up when the rest of the world couldn't, sadly that no longer happens, in fact because it doesn't, it disappoints me even more. --- I'm sorry you're there, but I can tell you I know I'm not. The minute I walk under the train tracks and enter Main STreet- warts and all, I still am uplifted. I bust my backside the other 50 weeks a year - 60-70 hours a week many weeks, trying to fulfill obligations that many times cannot be met. Stress is like a daily vitamin tablet, I know I will take more in every day. Raising children in this world, making financial commitments- dealing with family issues and health concerns take a toll. Do I care that a light bulb is out, that something I used to like is gone, or dumbed down - of course. Would I rather be there than anywhere else at that time- you bet. It's one of the few places on earth I can actually relax and enjoy my family- as they all enjoy the place also..so it's fairly easy. Can't remember the last time we had any kind of conflict while visiting. For us it really is 'Welcome Home' at our DVC unit. Do I know it's all 'pretend' - you bet, that reality hits the night before I return to work. So I choose not to add a few more points to my diastolic pressure count becase the honey butter is no longer on the table ? Nope. I am thankful the place still exists as som many of my childhood favorites are but memoires. My kids love the place and can't wait to go ' as a family'- how nice is that ? Soon likely I will be there with grandkids.. and I hope it is there for their kids as well, and I do what I can to help that. If that makes me an apologist, well then so be it.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo But DVC Dad, sounds like Hawaii could also make you feel the same way, or a trip to Spain perhaps?
Originally Posted By vbdad55 ^ hard to explain, but it's a different feeling. I think it stems from the fact that at WDW the family all wants to be there, and either wants to do the same things or else we've already worked out the details on who can go where, when. With 2 grown ( well 25 and 16) kids agreeing on anything is an accomplishment- let alone most everything. They're always up for sit down meals because Dad is paying..so even if they go off for a period of time, they're back at lunch at dinner. If we went to Hawaii - I can tell you my wife doesn't care for it, she'd rather be in Germany or Ireland. If we went to Oreland the kids would rather be in Jamaica.... me, I'm with ya as I'm glad to be away, anywhere..but enjoy the 'harmony' of a WDW vacation hope that makes sense
Originally Posted By leobloom >> I bust my backside the other 50 weeks a year - 60-70 hours a week many weeks, trying to fulfill obligations that many times cannot be met. Stress is like a daily vitamin tablet, I know I will take more in every day. << Do those 60-70 hours of work include hours spent puttering on LP debating the value of DVC? LMAO!
Originally Posted By MPierce >> I hate reality TV, I despise the right wing, I lament the lack of community respect, and I am not big on sequels, I hate toons in my parks, and dumbed down menues for those that lack a decent pallette. << Funny, I've never even considered despising you Dave, and you don't get much more rightwing than me.
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 VBdad hit the nail perfectly. Thank you. I want to say that the ones who complain the most really need to take a break from Disney parks and go somewhere else for a change, but it sounds like Dave has been just about everywhere else. Maybe some of us are just easier to please.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<I want to say that the ones who complain the most really need to take a break from Disney parks and go somewhere else for a change, >> That's a terrible excuse for Disney. Locals/regulars shouldn't have to do that. They should be able to enjoy everything just the same as those that only come once a year or less.
Originally Posted By Christi22222 ^^^I have to agree with this. Why do folks who don't like them, read the threads that critique Disney? Just don't read them. The critiques are valid points. As for it being easier to criticize, is there really much thought involved in saying.....all the lightbulbs were lit, good job! Parade floats actually worked, good job! Yeti disco danced for us, good job! I just don't see how that is conversation worthy. So I don't think criticizing is easier; it's just those points are the only ones worthy of discussion. It's the same debate folks have about the news. What are they supposed to say? The sun rose and set today. Yay!
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>I want to say that the ones who complain the most really need to take a break from Disney parks and go somewhere else for a change, but it sounds like Dave has been just about everywhere else.<<< I did that this summer. Went to Boston. Went to IoA. From 2001-2005 we skipped WDW, too. Not being there makes you want to be there a little bit more, but it doesn't lessen expecations and the level of quality Disney thi ks they can get away with.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 >> I bust my backside the other 50 weeks a year - 60-70 hours a week many weeks, trying to fulfill obligations that many times cannot be met. Stress is like a daily vitamin tablet, I know I will take more in every day. << Do those 60-70 hours of work include hours spent puttering on LP debating the value of DVC? LMAO! -- sometimes yes, and sometimes no - being honest
