Originally Posted By MPierce >> Now, no Disney castle compare's to DLP's though. That feels REAL ... and ORGANIC and is just amazing. << Though I've only seen pictures, I agree. It's especially beautiful at Christmas time. >> The worst castle is poor HKDL's because while it is a copy of Anaheim's, there is nothing to it. You walk thru ... no shops ... no attraction ... nothing. << That's the way DL's was when I was there in the 60's. >> From what I understand, there is space in the castle that could be used, much like the fact Pooh, PhilharMagic and Buzz showbuildings actually each have enough space for an additional attraction ... << If they take a tip from WDW they will use it for storage or convention space. >> and what were we talking about again? << I think it was something to do with either Disney or Lady Gaga.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> It's very simple: The Park Formerly Known as The Disney-MGM Studios. << I'm a Redneck with a 5th grade edumacation. That's to many words to memorize. >> Magical things often come in small packages. << Is that kind of like you can drive a railroad spike with a tiny hammer. You just got to keep tapping. >> Do they have them there? I have never noticed. << Yes, but it's been 10 years since I was there. They use to have the most beautiful Black Swan in the WS Lagoon too, but I haven't seen it in a number of years. I think Black Swans are only native to Austraila.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Though I've only seen pictures, I agree. It's especially beautiful at Christmas time.>> I've wanted to see it at Christmas. Haven't yet. But it just ... I guess the word is works so well. On a level none of the others do ... Very curious to see what happens in Shanghai. I do know the Chinese will want something unique. >> The worst castle is poor HKDL's because while it is a copy of Anaheim's, there is nothing to it. You walk thru ... no shops ... no attraction ... nothing. << <<That's the way DL's was when I was there in the 60's.>> Really? Wasn't the walk-thru open by then? >> From what I understand, there is space in the castle that could be used, much like the fact Pooh, PhilharMagic and Buzz showbuildings actually each have enough space for an additional attraction ... << <<If they take a tip from WDW they will use it for storage or convention space.>> They likely would if they had the need. The neat thing (to me) is that you'd never know (much like at EPCOT) that these buildings have all this hidden space in them. I believe the F-Land buildings were supposed to have the Peter Pan and Little Mermaid dark rides that budgeteered out of the equation. Not sure what was going in the Buzz building. >> and what were we talking about again? << <<I think it was something to do with either Disney or Lady Gaga.>> TDLFAN likes Gaga ... I wouldn't know her if she were here!
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 >> It's very simple: The Park Formerly Known as The Disney-MGM Studios. << <<I'm a Redneck with a 5th grade edumacation. That's to many words to memorize.>> Fifth grade??!? I thought it was second grade. With an education like that you could be Governor of more than 1/2 our states! >> Magical things often come in small packages. << <<Is that kind of like you can drive a railroad spike with a tiny hammer. You just got to keep tapping.>> Same thing! >> Do they have them there? I have never noticed. << <<Yes, but it's been 10 years since I was there.>> I was right next door last month ... <<They use to have the most beautiful Black Swan in the WS Lagoon too, but I haven't seen it in a number of years. I think Black Swans are only native to Austraila.>> I think Disney removed ALL birds from everywhere on property around 2000 and sent them to DAK to save $$$.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Very curious to see what happens in Shanghai. I do know the Chinese will want something unique. << They are pretty much demanding that across the Park. It's going to be fantastic if they don't cheap out. I would love to be involved in that one. I would also like to be the first one to pee in it's main fountain. (Sorry I couldn't help, but keep the myth alive.) >> Really? Wasn't the walk-thru open by then? << It's been 42 years, but as best I remember you walked through the Castle, and there was only a place to buy Kodak film. >> The neat thing (to me) is that you'd never know (much like at EPCOT) that these buildings have all this hidden space in them. I believe the F-Land buildings were supposed to have the Peter Pan and Little Mermaid dark rides that budgeteered out of the equation. Not sure what was going in the Buzz building. << I want a real behind the scenes tour. >> TDLFAN likes Gaga ... I wouldn't know her if she were here! << Donna Summer is going to be upset with him cheating on her. I saw Lady Gaga on SNL one time, and that's been it. She has talent, but she's much to weird for my taste. Of course I thought Lawrence Welk was a pretty radical dude.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> I thought it was second grade. With an education like that you could be Governor of more than 1/2 our states! << Mom always said if I would just get that Elementary Sheepskin, I could own the World. I was just to wild and impetuous to stick it out though. I'm glad you didn't mention my home State by name. >> I think Disney removed ALL birds from everywhere on property around 2000 and sent them to DAK to save $$$. << I don't doubt it. I really do miss the Flamingos in that little sandy area with the water close by the Odyssey, and the Red Parrots outside of the Mexican pavilion. I guess it's dumb to miss those things, but they really did add to the ambiance for me.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 >> Very curious to see what happens in Shanghai. I do know the Chinese will want something unique. << <<They are pretty much demanding that across the Park. It's going to be fantastic if they don't cheap out. I would love to be involved in that one.>> I believe it will be very high quality, but not match the quality of DLP at opening or TDS at opening. I also think the possible/likely involvement of the OLC raises the quality stakes. <<I would also like to be the first one to pee in it's main fountain. (Sorry I couldn't help, but keep the myth alive.)>> Just save it for a WDW resort pool! >> Really? Wasn't the walk-thru open by then? << <<It's been 42 years, but as best I remember you walked through the Castle, and there was only a place to buy Kodak film. >> I am almost 100% certain it would have been open by then ... Google it! ;-) >> The neat thing (to me) is that you'd never know (much like at EPCOT) that these buildings have all this hidden space in them. I believe the F-Land buildings were supposed to have the Peter Pan and Little Mermaid dark rides that budgeteered out of the equation. Not sure what was going in the Buzz building. << <<I want a real behind the scenes tour.>> HK would require a plane ride ... or a long time at sea! >> TDLFAN likes Gaga ... I wouldn't know her if she were here! << <<Donna Summer is going to be upset with him cheating on her.>> I won't tell her if you won't! <<I saw Lady Gaga on SNL one time, and that's been it. She has talent, but she's much to weird for my taste. Of course I thought Lawrence Welk was a pretty radical dude. >> I think he was weirder then she is ... my grandmother used to make us watch him when we were young. Turned me off both the Midwest and ballroom dancing.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 >> I think Disney removed ALL birds from everywhere on property around 2000 and sent them to DAK to save $$$. << <<I don't doubt it. I really do miss the Flamingos in that little sandy area with the water close by the Odyssey, and the Red Parrots outside of the Mexican pavilion. I guess it's dumb to miss those things, but they really did add to the ambiance for me.>> Of course. Because the little things DO matter. but how many folks have a clue they were even there?
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>Magical things often come in small packages.<< If that's what lets you sleep at night, go for it. ;-)
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>>> The worst castle is poor HKDL's because while it is a copy of Anaheim's, there is nothing to it. You walk thru ... no shops ... no attraction ... nothing. <<<< Same with Tokyo's. It kills me that there are copies of castles, even in a park like TDL. WDI couldn't be original? Couldn't be unique and creative? Why does their icon get to be ours? It cheapens all of them.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>I think Black Swans are only native to Austraila.<<< You are thinking of the Black NECKED Swans.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>I really do miss the Flamingos in that little sandy area with the water close by the Odyssey, and the Red Parrots outside of the Mexican pavilion.<<< And in the GranFlo....there were birdcages. And there were parrots at the Poly, too.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> I also think the possible/likely involvement of the OLC raises the quality stakes. Does anything get built in the East without the OLC being involved? >> I am almost 100% certain it would have been open by then ... Google it! ;-) << If it was open I flat out missed it. If anything had been going on I think I would have noticed. (Even though I must admit my primary goal was to meet chicks.) The Castle being so small, and selling film in it is burnt into my brain. That is why I was so disappointed. Exactly what does the walk thru entail? >> I think he was weirder then she is ... my grandmother used to make us watch him when we were young. Turned me off both the Midwest and ballroom dancing. << My parents never missed a show >> I won't tell her if you won't! << It would probably break her heart.
Originally Posted By MPierce >>>I think Black Swans are only native to Austraila.<<< >> You are thinking of the Black NECKED Swans. << The Black Swan, Cygnus atratus is a large non-migratory waterbird which breeds mainly in the southeast and southwest of Australia. It is also found along the east coast of Australia, Tasmania and recently reintroduced in New Zealand. Prior to the arrival of the Māori, a sub-species known as the New Zealand Swan used to live in New Zealand. This subspecies was hunted to extinction. The Black Swan was formerly placed into a monotypic genus, Chenopis. The Black Swan is commonly found in the wetlands of southern Australia. Unfortunately, human inhabitance has decreased the population of the swan. The current global population of the Black Swan is approximately around 500,000 individuals. The Black Swan is 130cm (52in) long and weighs up to 9kg (20lbs). It has all black plumage, except for the red bill, dark grey legs and white tips of the wing feathers. The neck is long and curved in an "S". On its red bill, there is a white bar near the tip. Both sexes are similar, with female slightly smaller and lighter than male. The cygnets have light grey plumage. The Southern Hemisphere swan species differ from the all-white Northern Hemisphere swans in that they all have some black in the plumage, but only the Black Swan is almost completely black. However, its closest living relative is probably the Mute Swan which is most similar, except in body plumage. Every year, the adults moult and become flightless. During this time they gather on open lakes in flocks. The diet consists mainly of water plants and unlike many other waterbirds, they spend their entire lives in the area where they were hatched. As with other swans, the Black Swan is largely monogamous, pairing for life. It nests on large mounds build in the middle of a shallow lake and reuses the same nest each year, restoring or rebuilding it as needed. Male and female swans share the care of the nest, and once the cygnets are fledged, it is not uncommon to see whole families looking for food. Black Swans were discovered by the expedition of Willem de Vlamingh to the west coast of Australia in 1697. Their discovery created great interest in Europe, where "all swans are white" had long been used as a standard example of a well-known scientific truth. The official state emblem of Western Australia, the Black Swan is protected under the Australian National Parks and Wildlife Act, 1974. How about we just agree they come from eggs EE?
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>How about we just agree they come from eggs EE?<<< Yes. That. and to think when I was younger, I wanted to be an Ornithologist.
Originally Posted By leobloom >> and to think when I was younger, I wanted to be an Ornithologist. << Florida's as good a place as any for that. Of course we--or Disney--need lotsa lawyers, too, right?
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Florida's as good a place as any for that. Of course we--or Disney--need lotsa lawyers, too, right?<<< It seems that my talents presented themselves a little later than the 4th grade, when I made that choice. ;-) The love for History came a bit later, and also came with a knack for it. Sadly, I suck at the sciences. But I still have a nice appreciation for them.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<And in the GranFlo....there were birdcages.>> Still are. They just have been empty for almost a decade now. <<And there were parrots at the Poly, too.>> Did you notice them when you were staying there? Or perhaps having a magical dinner at Kona Cafe or 'Ohana?
