Circumcision ban to appear on San Francisco ballot

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    Originally Posted By RoadTrip

    Personally I think uncircumcised penises look gross. I would leave it up to women to state their preference though I suspect, as with many things, they would prefer the clean-cut look.

    Is the increased responsiveness of an uncircumcised male supposed to be a GOOD THING? Maybe if you are a teenager flying solo in the bathroom at home, but otherwise it is hard to imagine. Enough guys work on a hair-trigger as it is. I just can't imagine a woman saying, "Oh God, baby… a minute is SO LONG! Don't you think you could cut it to 30 seconds?"

    Like that would EVER happen!! LOL LOL
     
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    Originally Posted By Inspector 57

    Most religious "It came from God!" prohibitions have their basis in (what was then) pragmatic social guidelines. "Don't eat pork!" Well, yeah, back then that would've given you trichnosis. Good advice at the time, and TOTALLY irrevelant now. "Don't masturbate!" Okay, maybe back then if guys could have been cowed into not masturbating they would have been more likely to actually go out and reproduce the tribe. Let's make our group bigger. Totally unnecessary now. (Oh, wait. This is still a Catholic rule, isn't it? And it's probably exactly as effective an injunction as it was 2000 years ago.) "Don't murder!" Okay, that one makes sense. As so most of the other commandments, still.

    "Get circumcised!" Given the modern medical data, that one still makes sense, too.
     
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    Originally Posted By davewasbaloo

    ROTFLMAO RT! FWIW, I had never seen an uncircumsized penis until I moved to the UK. My British step dad forgot to brief me, so my first day of british PE, in the locker room was very different. I was asked if I was Jewish. Lol.

    I have known a couple of men over here that due to medical issues were circusized in sexually active adulthood. They said a little sensitivity was lost, but overall it was better. I thought that was an interesting perspective.
     
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    Originally Posted By davewasbaloo

    I also forgot to add, for men, there is less chance of contracting HIV when uncircumsized. For gay active men especially (top).
     
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    Originally Posted By davewasbaloo

    Sorry, I meant, circumsized men are less likely to contract HIV. Grrrrr. Sorry for the typo.

    with foreskin, viruses stay in around susceptable areas for longer. This is why women and passive gay men (bottom) are more susceptable to infection.
     
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    Originally Posted By davewasbaloo

    though a condom is always the safest way.
     
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    Originally Posted By Inspector 57

    Uncircumsized penises are more likely to spread HIV and HPV. That's just a medical fact.

    Having written that...

    <<I would leave it up to women to state their preference though I suspect, as with many things, they would prefer the clean-cut look.>>

    I'm not a woman, I'm a gay man. But for what it's worth...

    Years ago, before my current partner, I had another monogamous boyfriend. He was Portuguese. I remember how clearly he fit the stereotype of the passionate Latin Lover. I can vaguely remember the size of his penis. I definitely remember the way it curved. But, for the life of me, I cannot remember if it was cut or not.

    Some things just don't matter sexually. It's trimmed or it's not. Whatever.
     
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    Originally Posted By Goofyernmost

    It's incredible the misconceptions that come with non-circumcision.

    Does everything get more sensitive, hair trigger, etc. it is too laugh.

    During activity the foreskin retracts and works just like any other. More sensitive, I doubt it, don't forget those with it, do not have clothing rubbing against the more sensitive glans, irritating and sensitizing. Equals out I'd say.

    More likely to have bladder infections, cause female cancer, premature ejaculation are all a lot of bull. As I have said before hygiene, hygiene, hygiene. If a man doesn't practice personal hygiene with or without a foreskin, he would not be very pleasant to be around. PE would come from that big sex organ in the head called the brain.

    As far as what one would prefer, well since this decision is usually made by our parents long before we are even aware that we have a penis...it is a mute point. You will end up, if already cut, thinking that "clean cut" is the best. If not already removed, then for the most part we accept and enjoy what we have. If not, and we are willing to withstand the unpleasant procedure, then we can change it. So as it turns out those that were circumcised at the time of their birth really have no choice but to be happy with the results.
     
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    Originally Posted By davewasbaloo

    Sorry Gooyrnmost, the evidence supports that partners of circumcision are less likely to develop cervical cancer. As well as the HIV element. I was London's HIV Sexual Health commissioner and I read the UNICEF, WHO, American, and European research (where it is less common) to support the evidence. That part is fact.
     
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    Originally Posted By gadzuux

    But no worries goofy - the good news is that you can join the club whenever you want! Let me get my scissors ...
     
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    Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan

    >>Despite the possible benefits and risks, circumcision is neither essential nor detrimental to a boy's health. The AAP and the American Academy of Family Physicians (AAFP) do not endorse the procedure as a way to prevent any of the medical conditions mentioned previously. The AAP also does not find sufficient evidence to medically recommend circumcision or argue against it.<<

    <a href="http://kidshealth.org/parent/system/surgical/circumcision.html" target="_blank">http://kidshealth.org/parent/s...ion.html</a>#
     
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    Originally Posted By Labuda

    So, the foreskin is kinda like the appendix, eh?
     
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    Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan

    In general, I think nature was pretty smart about what we're born with. It seems like such an odd thing to focus on -- what a baby's penis looks like. Removing it had nothing to do with health concerns -- it was based on religion.

    As to disease prevention, I find the idea that getting rid of a natural part of the body strange. I mean, we don't remove a lung to avoid lung cancer.

    Whether you're for it or against it, you have to admit it's a rather bizarre fixation. (And no, I am not in favor of this dumb ban.)
     
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    Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt

    Is it sort of like you prefer to have beef but if they're out you'll take the chicken?
     
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    Originally Posted By BPSJP

    Is this LP or Playboy?
     
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    Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt

    Seems more like Playgirl to me.
     
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    Originally Posted By BPSJP

    Right, Playgirl is a better fit for a resent post.
     

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