Originally Posted By Sara Tonin Okay...I didn't read all the posts. I like to get back to the op. I think AD's advice was hitting the nail on the head. We, as virtual, imaginary friends can give all the comfort and support in the world, but that isn't going to help the real problem...getting up, grabbing the phone book and getting yourself to counseling is what was called for in this case. Sympathy and support are nice on a limited basis, but at some point real therapy is called for, and I'm not sure about you all but I know I for one am not a trained psycologist. So I for one support AD's point. The best advice I can give is find a professional...I may be as broken or even more broken as the next guy.
Originally Posted By Autopia Deb Thanks for the words of support. Sometimes I feel like I'm yelling in the wind . And I should probably thank you for bringing us back on topic after the silly (and fun) turn the topic has taken.
Originally Posted By MissCandice Well, yelling in the wind is better than peeing in the wind I guess.
Originally Posted By u k fan I don't want to labor too much over the particular thread that Sara is referring to, but I agree 100% that help needed to be gotten in the real world. I do think some posters we unnecessarily harsh though and it's that culture that worried me, not the advice given to seek help elsewhere!!!
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub I know people in therapy for multiple years paying for nothing compared to the online dose of reality=grow up/take responsibility,etc...Best advice should have been to get legal consult immediately and some caring from all of us considering there is a lot of possible real danger lurking in this story. And if you are truly not concerned then do not read about the train wrecks and don't stop to see the wreck on the road. It is alarming to see the online casual attitudes replicating itself into real world rudeness. Agreed?
Originally Posted By Autopia Deb Disagree. The world today is no more rude than it ever was. It just looks a little different now days. I think it was the height of rudeness for a "gentleman" to force a lady to stand at the back of a bus because her skin was darker than his. I'd far rather someone not make eye contact on the street because they are texting than to have them automatically think I am less than them by virtue of my gender or race. As a modern woman, I have experienced far more open rudeness from men (and women) of a more chivalrous generation than by anyone my own age or younger. As to not participating or commenting on the "train wrecks" if you don't want your life discussed, don't bring it to a discussion board.
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub ...except we all give each other advice for trip planning so I guess it just seems natural to trust online LP friends. I stayed away from this for a long time and probably would not have commented except for the realworld danger of traveling in mexico does not seem to be addressed yet. Something could be very seriously wrong.
Originally Posted By crazycroc Pee. Everything and everyone smells like pee. Urine has taken over this board, and unless we buy one of those things that is a carpet that you train the dog to pee on, we will have this problem. Ladies and gentlemen, the place to pee inside the house is this thread. Applesacks ahoy!
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 <<I stayed away from this for a long time and probably would not have commented except for the realworld danger of traveling in mexico does not seem to be addressed yet. Something could be very seriously wrong>> It depends where you're traveling in Mexico. Anywhere on the border is a definite know. But if you go to the Rivera Maya area, Cancun and such you'll be fine. I went there last year, will be going again next year. I've never not felt safe while there.
Originally Posted By WDWdreamin I agree that some situations call for more than a sympathetic word, and if you feel your suggestion would offer real help then you should make it. But, I feel that people on a fan page such as this should just be kind about what they say to the op AND to other posters, especially when someone says they are hurting.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo While I empathise with your point dreaming, and also have seen some meanness around here, there is a key question as to what is kind? A false but well meaning "it will be alright", a tough love reality check? It is a difficult call. I will often offer my opinion, even if it may not always be a popular one, but I put myself out there in an attempt to really help, if that is what people are really looking for. But the older I get, the less I am inclined to think people on a site like this want real help. Maybe it is just a chance to vent and get a "there, there" answer. Once upon a time I used to ask for help here, but I no longer feel comfortable in doing so.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA <Applesacks ahoy!> I don't know what this means. But leave it to crazycroc to make me laugh! <
Originally Posted By Autopia Deb >>>But, I feel that people on a fan page such as this should just be kind about what they say to the op AND to other posters, especially when someone says they are hurting.<<< You must not be frequenting the WDW General section. I would say that area is the very definition of "fan site" and the regulars are neither kind nor nice as a general rule. But as for the community, my 2 cents: sometimes being nice is no kindness. Also, when there are inconsistencies in the story of someone asking for sympathy, I think it is an obligation of those in the community on a site like this to question them. People going to the Internet for sympathy and a pat on the head have been known to lie to get attention (I'm not saying for sure that has happened here) and web site communities have been torn apart by that sort of thing. Look into Munchausen's by Internet, you might see something familiar. Just because we are fans of a company that deals in fun and fantasy doesn't mean those with a more cynical view don't belong here with those that prefer a rosier view. But to be clear, I am not endorsing name calling and personal attacks. I just think it's OK to question and it's OK to not be 100% supportive when someone has posted an unhappy situation. We're all different personalities here, and it's only correct that we be allowed post honestly even when the opinion isn't popular.
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub I agree with your point as I realize we probably all have friends and relatives and acquaintances that have the same version problems forever and really don't want a solution. I actually have those problems talking to myself!Right now I am irritable with everybody it seems and the heat wave in the Midwest does not help my attitude but ultimately I know I am most irritated with myself for most things.
Originally Posted By u k fan <<<Munchausen's by Internet>>> I've definitely seen that over the years!!!
