Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<Yes...but after 18 years of being brainwashed and homeschooled (and somewhat famous for these things), it might be a bit harder to accomplish.>> I don't want to give the opinion that I support home schooling because I do not... I think it leaves kids at a social disadvantage. But I worked for the College of Continuing Education at the University of Minnesota and one of the programs they were in charge of was PSEOA. The kids in the program who were being home schooled on average had substantially higher GPA's in their college courses than the kids who were attending public High schools.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Yep, my brothers were home schooled due to their disabilities. I queried my parents, but I will say this, not that 2 of my brothers are in college, they are both top of the class and award winners. But we did not home school them for brainwashing reasons. But I find this family to be putrid and selfish. I would love a large family, but given the crowding and degradation of the planet, I find it to be irresponsible to have 20 kids.
Originally Posted By dagobert How does home schooling work in the US? Here in Austria it's possible to home school the kids, but it has to be told the school authorities and at the end of each school year the children have to take exams at public schools to see if they learned what was required by the state defined curriculum. If the kids didn't meet the requirements, then they have to attend a public school.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo In the UK ,you just present your syllabus each year, and the exams are optional.
Originally Posted By dshyates I love that these crazy folks are popping out babies by the dozons to create their own Christian Army. "Onward Christian Soldiers, marching as to war...." They are just preparing America for the Holy War one of their fellow Christian nutjobs will start. All for the Glory of God!
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom They are not breaking any laws. And I really don't see the difference in being an "absent" parent to 20 kids as apposed to being an "absent" parents to one kid. If your a parent and irresponcible, then your a parent and irresponcible it doesn't matter if you have one child or 20.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Plus, I don't know that the Duggars are absent parents. Seems to me the drag the entire troop everywhere with then so they are always available for a photo op.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 I said it earlier but it bears repeating. They're using their children in an abusive manner for our "entertainment" it's immoral and sickening.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>They're using their children in an abusive manner for our "entertainment" it's immoral and sickening.<< I agree. It changes the complexion of the whole situation when they become reality show stars. The last pregnancy was dangerous for both mother and child, but they go ahead and have another just for giggles. I generally believe that, as long as someone isn't hurting anyone else, then they should be left to do as they wish. But raising girls to believe that they shouldn't become college educated IS hurting someone else. They're mentally ill and greedy, which makes them perfect reality show stars.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>Once the daughters are over 18 they could have done any darned thing they want.<< Raised in the Duggar compound and subjected to 18 years of hearing otherwise, I doubt they grasp they have such a choice.
Originally Posted By HongKongFoooy ###Raised in the Duggar compound and subjected to 18 years of hearing otherwise, I doubt they grasp they have such a choice.### so you'll just write them off as mindless drones? that is way too premature to write them off because many people change over time regardless of their upbringing. and if they don't become independent thinkers well into adulthood, then that's their own fault, nobody else's.
Originally Posted By Autopia Deb Mele and I don't always agree, but she has stated perfectly why I think the Duggars are hurting others, especially their own daughters. 2ooney and DDMan as well. All though it is possible to overcome an upbringing such as this, look at one of the Westboro sons, it is not likely. I certainly hope the Duggar girls can over-come their childhoods and become accomplished women rather than Uterai for the Christian Army, I am skeptical. These girls aren't facing quite the level of abuse those raised in Warren Jeff's ultra fundamental LDS cult/commune but there are similarities in attitude and those girls have had a very difficult time assimilating into modern American society.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>if they don't become independent thinkers well into adulthood, then that's their own fault<< They've been raised to believe a certain way and that is difficult to overcome. Not impossible, but very, very difficult. Entangle it all in hardline religion and odd family dynamics and it gets even more psychologically complicated.
Originally Posted By mele I wonder how much of the tv money these children actually get for themselves. Having their own money would certainly help them to get away from their parents if they so choose. Plus, these girls are in charge of their younger siblings; leaving them would be a pretty difficult decision even if they weren't raised to only be mothers. If they left, it would be like they were abandoning those children. Impossible, no. But, most parents want their children to be prepared to leave, to go out into the world and conquer it in their own, special way. These children are definitely NOT taught that...especially the girls.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom << It changes the complexion of the whole situation when they become reality show stars. The last pregnancy was dangerous for both mother and child, but they go ahead and have another just for giggles.>> Are you saying that had the Duggars not been reality TV stars that their life style is ok? I'm just having a difficult time trying to understand all this contempt for the Duggars when the same behavior is exhibited tens of thousands of times over by many women who behave as if it is their God given right to download children without any thought as to what is going to happen after the child is downloaded. When you have 20-something year old grandmothers, then their is a societal problem. And apparently no one has a problem with that!
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom I don't see anyone in the Liberal media saying anything about it. With Politico writting 94 articles in one week about Herman Cain and sexual harassment charges there is very little room for much else. In fact our President whispering to the French President how he has to deal with the leader of Israel on a daily basis. I would think Obama has very little time left to deal with society "bigger" problems.
Originally Posted By DyGDisney >>>Raised in the Duggar compound and subjected to 18 years of hearing otherwise, I doubt they grasp they have such a choice.<<< Exactly. Brainwashing can provide significant results. I think what the Duggars fear so much about their girls going to college is the same thing many homeschooling parents fear, their children becoming independent thinkers. If the girls went off to college they might realize they can do something with their lives other than only being a mom. Being a mom is a wonderful thing, being a stay at home mom is also a wonderful thing, if that's your choice. It's a choice I myself made, after getting my education. But not being given the choice is wrong.
Originally Posted By DyGDisney ^^^ Would anyone believe I make money writing??? Ugh! What does it mean to "download" children?
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom <<What does it mean to "download" children?>> Give birth to a child. I'm partially playing on Whoopi Goldberg's comment about, "down the shoot".
