Originally Posted By imadisneygal "I am curious about a previous poster stating that it isn't necessary to wear a suit. It has been many years since I applied and worked at DL but if yo did not show up in a shirt and tie you had no chance of being hired. I know they have relaxed their standards at the park over the years due to the turnover and the need for applicants but why would anyone go to a job interview, even at DL and not wear a tie(men)or business attire (women)?" It was I who posted the information about a suit not being necessary. Not only have some of the appearance guidelines been relaxed a bit since the beginning, but business culture in general hes relaxed. If the position you're applying for requires you to dress in a suit or complete business attire, then by all means wear that attire to the interview. However, Disneyland CM's, for the most part, wear costumes. Also, many applicants are directly out of high school and many do not even own a suit or business attire. Business casual is completely acceptable and even expected for interviews now. Anything less than business casual, however, would be too dressed down in my opinion. The interview is about presenting yourself in a positive light and attire is definitely a part of that. Having said that, I'd rather have an enthusiastic, friendly, fun applicant who is wearing business casual than someone in a suit who dressed up because that's what they "thought" they should wear. If the two happen to combine - friendliness and suit-wearing - then all the better, I suppose.
Originally Posted By iluvdisneyland " "iluv": In ODV, what type of positions are available? Is it just the food carts in DL? PS: I recommended your post (#10) to another person over at the WDW General Section as a great overview to someone who was thinking of working @ WDW, hope that was ok..." There are two ODV's - the original, larger (and better!) ODV is Outdoor Vending at Disneyland Park. The younger, smaller, and less efficient is Outdoor Ventures at Disney's California Adventure park. The two are completely separate, but are in the same scheduling group now, meaning you can be cross scheduled between departments, and our new hires are trained over there as well. As you've probably figured out, I'm in Outdoor Vending at Disneyland Park. ;-) As a new-hire in ODV, there's only one hourly position available, and that is Cashier Host/Hostess. The Cashier is a vending Cast Member who operates a churro, popcorn, pretzel, lemonade, or hot foods carts or sells cotton candy, fronzen lemonade, glow items, and balloons. After six months with the Resort, some options open up. ODV is a complex, large operation, and there are usually positions available in a higher wage bracket and classification. We have Recievers, Stockers, Stewards, Tuggers, Reciever Assistants, BOH Leads, and FOH Leads. Hope I helped, and it is perfectly alright of you to have forwarded that on.
Originally Posted By HRM Read over at another website (MICEAGE)about "presenteeism" affecting CM's; is this situation actually true? Would this make it easier to get a position at the present time, or with the summer drawing to a close, are available hours and shifts getting trimmed?
Originally Posted By SpoonCM Yes. "Presenteeism" and the removal of CR-25/RPT are going into full effect Resortwide. Started with Foods and is now heading out to the Resort Hotels and I'm guessing to the rest of the Park. From what I heard, 100s of CMs are dying off left and right due to points and the much dreaded NC/Late (No Call/Late). Let me just put it this way: Years past, we stopped hiring in June and finished most New Hire training by July. It is now the beginning of August, we are no where near done training the new hires we hired so far and we are still hiring with a lot of interviews still left that will prolly last beyond the end of summer season.
Originally Posted By HRM On the surface this doesn't sound too promising... I guess that's to be expected with the transition under the new Ouimet administration. However, if a new person coming to work for DL is focused, dedicated and clear on what is expected, this seems to be the perfect time to get in on the ground floor @ DL and have a good working experience, maybe even a career, with the Mouse. >>From what I heard, 100s of CMs are dying off left and right due to points and the much dreaded NC/Late (No Call/Late).<< What are "Points"? Also, you mentioned the Resort Hotels... Are there many opportunities in Hotel Hospitality available? How about general merchandising and retail, both in DL & Downtown Disney? Are there any differences in classification between CM's who work in these different areas? Are the benefits different (those special "extra" benefits mentioned by iluv, as well as the more traditional benefits)? The Resort Experience is just as important to help keep the magic alive, right?
Originally Posted By tiggertoo <<On the surface this doesn't sound too promising... I guess that's to be expected with the transition under the new Ouimet administration.>> Actually most of the rules have been around for a while. They are merely enforcing them with greater zeal. <<However, if a new person coming to work for DL is focused, dedicated and clear on what is expected, this seems to be the perfect time to get in on the ground floor @ DL and have a good working experience, maybe even a career, with the Mouse.>> Actually yeah. It takes a while normally to build up enough points for termination (unless your REALLY special). The CMs I know who are currently being termed are 2 to 3 year guys. It certainly helps the seniority for those hired after. <<What are "Points"?>> Points, demerits, same concept. It’s been a while and thing have changed a bit since I left so I’ll leave it to someone else to share the point scale. Also, many of the stores in DTD are not operated by the DL business unit.
Originally Posted By Dfno1 Gee, wonder what my chances are of getting the job I want at Disneyland when I retire in 13 years. LOL! I want a Custodial job late at night/early morning. Hopefully a lead or manager position. By then I will have had over 30 years experience in the field and 23 as the supervisor. I oddly get a kick out of working behind the sceens and having my work not really "noticed" but obviously "appreciated". If that makes any sense. I've always wanted to work at Disneyland late at night.
Originally Posted By HRM So if a person works for a store in DTD that is not owned by the DL business unit, they are not considered CM's... correct? Which business are owned by the DL business unit? This greater "enforcement zeal"... is it a good thing given the attendance volume demands during the 50th anniversary celebration? Should this be a considered a move towards a greater accountability and professionalism of the early DL days? I'm not necessarily saying CM performance has been unprofessional recently, but the general scuttlebutt on-line over the past several years hasn't been always favorable. I have no way of being able to evaluate the situation one way or another. Every place has good and bad apples. DL is just held to a higher standard; afterall, DL created the higher standard!
Originally Posted By OceanSpace It is my dream to work at Disneyland at some point in my life, I love going and I spend as much time there as I can. However I know the hours vary all the time and I would have difficulty with that medically. If I do not have a consistent sleep schedule, I am at risk for having a seizure, so I couldn't have a varied schedule all the time with super early mornings and super late nights. Does Disney work with this at all or will they just not hire you?
Originally Posted By OceanSpace Whoever goes to answer my question... The seizures are completely controlled and would not affect my work in any way, I haven't had one in years, but that is because I keep to a routine. For instance, I just couldn't start work until 10 or 11 a.m. but I'd be able to work late nights so long as I kept similar shifts in that area and didn't take the 4 a.m. ones.
Originally Posted By HRM >>I would have difficulty with that medically. If I do not have a consistent sleep schedule, I am at risk for having a seizure<< Sounds like an ADA issue; not only couldn't you be denied employment, (given your were qualified in all other aspects), an accomodation for your situation would have to be offered. I read an article some time back that one of the performers in the Aladin show was in a wheelchair, and that she was a major part of the show!
Originally Posted By OceanSpace I'm not at all associated with the ADA, I have never let it get to that point because I have a very good doctor who would write me any note necessary. I feel guilty wanting special treatment when I would have no seniority whatsoever, but I know that it's the only way I'd be able to work there. Do you think a doctor's note/phone call/etc. would be sufficient?
Originally Posted By HRM The key is "qualified for the position in all relevant and important aspects". This is not special treatment. I've always felt that Disney promotes Diversity in every way. If you can do the job, why not...
Originally Posted By HRM iluv, that reminds me.... Back to your article... you mentioned some key traits that a potential CM should demonstrate during the interview process; what are some of the core skills that you feel make a great CM?
Originally Posted By tiggertoo <<So if a person works for a store in DTD that is not owned by the DL business unit, they are not considered CM's... correct? Which business are owned by the DL business unit?>> I think World of Disney is (is that right?) but the ESPN, Lego store, Rainforest, etc… aren’t part of DL. And no these shouldn’t consider themselves CMs. There may be a couple other “Disney†stores in DTD but I wasn’t a stores CM and can’t tell you for sure which they are. <<This greater "enforcement zeal"... is it a good thing given the attendance volume demands during the 50th anniversary celebration? Should this be a considered a move towards a greater accountability and professionalism of the early DL days?>> I think so. TL attractions was, at least when I worked there, pretty to the books. I heard other departments had issues with the increased enforcement but their complaints seemed like business as usual to me. We knew the rules going when we got hired. If you got the points, you paid the price. Seems fair enough.
Originally Posted By tiggertoo <<Does Disney work with this at all or will they just not hire you?>> You’d have to ask them. I know that at peek seasons (Summers and Holidays) that you must be fully available. They may give allow you some leniency. Then again, they may also view your ailment as a liability and simply not hire you. You best bet is call them with the hypothetical question, and see what they say about it. I wouldn’t mention it in an interview though, they may simply say, “We’ll call you.â€
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Originally Posted By tiggertoo Was that...ummm...SHIFTS you meant? lol Anyway, no problem. You could probably work something out with you area schedulers but let them know right away and often of your needs. They will probably be able to help a lot.
Originally Posted By iluvdisneyland I'm going to go through and try to answer as many questions as I can sometime tomorrow. I had a long day (just long, not bad) today, and I'm pretty tired. I just wanted to throw in this: World of Disney and Marceline's Confectionary are the only stores in Downtown Disney owned/operated by the Disneyland Resort. ESPN is owned by Disney, so ESPN Zone would be owned/operated by the Company as well.
