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Originally Posted By SpokkerJones "The main concern for me with pornography are the ones that do not demonstrate unprotected sex. There is supposedly no market for it. Now that is really sad." Some of my favorites feature condoms, and most of the time you don't notice it. There's even one that I like where the girl demands a condom and they take it out of the drawer and put it on. It's actually a pretty popular series from Europe. Though I can see how condoms can ruin the fantasy of certain kinds of porn genres, mainly pickup themes. Most jobs have some kind of inherent risk. I mean, it's not like pornography is logging or mining.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA <I mean, it's not like pornography is logging or mining. > Or is it? Bah-da-BOOM!
Originally Posted By Inspector 57 <<Sexual addiction is not an imagined issue. Time spent lusting for sex always leads wanting more. And fills lives with false fulfillment.>> Your post doesn't make literal sense, josh. Ya missed some verbs or pronouns or something there. I kinda don't get it. Or I kinda do. And, if so, I totally disagree. Ya know what REALLY leads to wanting more sex? Human nature. Biology. Get over it.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder I've only read through ten posts. Has Josh complained about being attacked yet?
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder I dunno, this makes me want to go to some porn sites. I've been in Palm Springs all weekend, no computers, and boy, did I lust after some women who weren't my wife. I lusted after my wife too, but there were quite a few nearly naked women half my age (I'm 53, remember) who were out for a good time. I particularly need to find sites with tall blond women and huge cleavage.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Who's going to start a thread titled "Combatting Mormonism and Their Preachy, Uninvited Cult Followers"? I'm too tired from my weekend of sex.
Originally Posted By Longhorn12 >Ya know what REALLY leads to wanting more sex? Human nature. Biology. Get over it.< Well clearly god made us in his image and gave us these desires... so we could not do them because they are bad. Religion is overrated.
Originally Posted By dshyates I don't have the desire to click the link in the OP, but I have a question for those that have. How are they suggesting that we "combat pornography"? Is it like how they "combat unholy perversions" like gays? As in legislation? Or are they simply talking about personal relationships and responsibility?
Originally Posted By ecdc It's a video of a father that leaves, presumably after his wife kicks him out, because he's "addicted" to pornography. Much of the video is a split screen showing what happens when the man chooses to watch, vs chooses to shut off the computer. Instead of spending delightful days with his wife and children, he's on his phone or computer and his wife is yelling or crying. There's no audio from the couple; it's all a voice-over from Mormon Apostle Jeffrey Holland talking about choosing to be holy. It's essentially the Mormon view on the world because their perception of topics like this are so warped, because they assume anyone who does something like this is headed for disaster. I imagine they could make a video like this around alcohol. Alcoholism does happen, it is awful, but the vast majority of people drink moderately without incident. But many Mormons don't understand that since they don't drink themselves. I think it's the same thing here. Yes, there are awful consequences from men with pornography compulsions, but the vast majority are not being kicked out of their house or losing their jobs and ruining their lives because of the occasional online click. Mormons have stigmatized porn so intensely, they just don't get that.
Originally Posted By ecdc I'd add, there is legitimate concern over the rampant availability of porn online. It bothers me to think that young boys might think porn is a good indicator of what intimacy is like in marriage. It bothers me that eighteen year old girls are told this is a great way to break into showbiz. There's plenty of room for important conversations to be had and studies to be done. The Mormon Scorched Earth/Shame and Guilt policy is not it.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper I do have a cousin who is in the process of a divorce. Her husband's porn addicition is largely to blame though there are likely some underlying issues. Interestingly the family was a strong, faith based family and the two of them met on a Christian website about 15 years ago or so...when that wasn't exactly the norm.
Originally Posted By mele I agree with you, ecdc, in both posts. Doesn't Utah (supposedly) have the highest usage of porn? I'm not sure how something like that is actually measured but I do remember reading that awhile ago. As usual, the more taboo a subject becomes, the more people want to experience it. It's just incredibly stupid to make people feel so shameful over something that is so natural.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper Well, have you seen much porn? Two people having "relations" isn't necessarily unnatural. One person using items found in the produce section of a grocery store (or in the hardware section of Home Depot) for various means may not, necessarily, fall into the "natural" category.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>I do have a cousin who is in the process of a divorce. Her husband's porn addicition is largely to blame though there are likely some underlying issues.<< Well that's just it. Those anecdotal stories always exist. If 1% of the population suffers from this type of compulsion then chances are you'll know someone who does. So what about the other 99%? We tend to eat up cautionary tales and ignore the data that shows those tales aren't very representative of the norm. We all probably know an alcoholic - should we never take a sip again?
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<One person using items found in the produce section of a grocery store>> I thought vegetables were GOOD for you!! LOL...
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo We do owe a lot of our entertainment formats due to the porn industry - VHS beat beta due to porn, blue ray beat HD DVD due to porn. Heck, even 3D was kept alive after the 50's trend. Interesting if you think about it.
Originally Posted By dagobert >>We do owe a lot of our entertainment formats due to the porn industry - VHS beat beta due to porn, blue ray beat HD DVD due to porn. Heck, even 3D was kept alive after the 50's trend. Interesting if you think about it.<< Sorry for being off topic, but didn't Sony want to keep porn away from its new BluRay format?
Originally Posted By wahooskipper I never think about porn Dave. Well, not "never". In fact, I'm thinking about it now. ecdc, I didn't share that story as a means to try and persuade society to make illegal or stop watching porn. Just a personal tidbit where the vice was known to cause issue. I know of plenty of other couples who use porn as one of a number of ways to keep marriage spicy and I'm perfectly fine with that. I don't think we should not drink anymore...but...knowing alcoholics helps me to make sure I'm drinking in moderation.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 I would have responded earlier but I was busy doing some research on the subject. I'll just say I didn't know some people could bend that way. I'm sure like any addiction it can cause problems to an individual and their loved ones.
