Originally Posted By utahjosh ***The headline of this thread is misleading if not an outright LIE.*** <Who cares? Why are you so threatened by it?> It's just another disingenuous and erroneous attack on my home state and my religion. Why wouldn't I want to reply?
Originally Posted By utahjosh And it's obvious that it was a business decision. This guy's theaters have shown things worse than that. He's never said it was a moral decision. Some people say he's lying and that is IS a moral statement, and then claim he's a hypocrite for allowing other bad things to show. It's telling a cat he's a dog, and then being upset that the animal is not barking like it should!
Originally Posted By Mr X Well, no. It's not disingenuous nor erroneous. Not at all, in fact. The fact that your religion does affect your whole state so much is pretty incredible. Not very American, if you ask me. I really don't understand why any non-mormon would want to live there, honestly.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***And it's obvious that it was a business decision. This guy's theaters have shown things worse than that. He's never said it was a moral decision.*** How is that obvious, Josh? Why would he single out this one in particular, if not for "moral" reasons (I hate to even attach the word morals to this, since it's really anything but).
Originally Posted By utahjosh The fact that your religion does affect your whole state so much is pretty incredible. Not very American, if you ask me. What the heck does that mean. America has ALWAYS been influenced by the majority. Always.
Originally Posted By utahjosh <How is that obvious, Josh?> He said it was. He even explained it in the article. Did you read it?
Originally Posted By utahjosh <Why would he single out this one in particular, if not for "moral" reasons (I hate to even attach the word morals to this, since it's really anything but). He thinks the movie won't sell tickets. That's way, End os story. If he wanted to take a moral stand, he wouldn't be showing Sex Drive, Saw movies, and other extreme or R reated movies. Maybe they think the word Porno in the title will turn people away.
Originally Posted By Mr X Yes, that's right. Because he said it, that's all we need to know. Uh huh. As for your "what the heck does that mean", I just gotta say that christian religions of various types make up the majority in LOTS of places around America..but we only seem to hear these sorts of stories out of Utah. Just sayin.
Originally Posted By utahjosh So how is it unamerican, X? When the puritains were the vast majority in an area, business catered to them. Is that unamerican?
Originally Posted By barboy utahjosh ///it's obvious that it was a business decision/// Mr X ///Why would he single out this one in particular, if not for "moral" reasons/// Ok here's something to ponder: isn't it possible that the theatre owner is concerned with both the business AND the moral implications? Why does it have to be one or the other?
Originally Posted By SuperDry Also, let's for the moment assume that it was only a business decision in that he thought that the movie would not be profitable. Why would this be, when it's going to be shown in other areas of the country? It would seem that the answer would be Mormon "morality" but in this scenario among the customers. Either way, it's interesting that in Utah, this movie as well as Brokeback Mountain are not shown, yet movies with all sorts of violence are. Whether it be the owner and the customers, it points out an interesting aspect of the so-called "morality" at play.
Originally Posted By ChurroMonster Not showing Brokeback Mountain is most questionable. It was a critical and box office success. Obviously it was the ick factor more than economic reasons.
Originally Posted By BlueDevilSF ^^^ Yeah, it jeopardizes the theatre owner's chances of ascending to the celestial kingdom...
Originally Posted By DAR <<Not showing Brokeback Mountain is most questionable.>> I would agree but then again it was a business decision <<It was a critical and box office success.>> It's a movie critics are made to love. And it was probably with a very low budget but I don't think it made 100 million which is usually the bench mark of a blockbuster <<Obviously it was the ick factor more than economic reasons.>> Personally I didn't like the film because of the ick factor I thought it was incredibly boring.
Originally Posted By BlueDevilSF I didn't like it either but not because of the ick factor. I just couldn't connect with it at all. Don't know why.
Originally Posted By DAR Speaking of Ledger, BD have you picked up the Joker graphic novel that just came out?