Contempo DVC

Originally Posted By tonyanton

I understand everyone's points, I just can't get over the scale of this building. Again, I know it will most likely be this size so they sell as many points as possible at a top price. However, it really sickens me that the iconic Contemporary tower will now be overshadowed by a building that would be fit in best along a popular overbuilt oceanfront somewhere. It would have been better to have torn down both garden wings and done two 6-8 story buildings to achieve the same amount of DVC units.

It also appears that any view of the MK from Bay Lake (from boats, the beach at the campground) will be obliterated.

 

Originally Posted By vbdad55

" It would have been better to have torn down both garden wings and done two 6-8 story buildings to achieve the same amount of DVC units. "

agreed

 

Originally Posted By Spirit of 74

You have to figure two things played prominently in it disappearing from the website:

Disney did nOT want word leaking out, while SS is still selling -- who would choose to buy at SS when you could buy at Contemp?.

And Disney hasn't made an official announcement. If it stayed on that site for long, maybe one of those lazy reporters who trolls this site like Scott Powers would have had no choice but to run a piece in the O-Sentinel. And Disney hates it when it can't contol the news.

This thing is pretty far along in design and development. I can see some small changes, but I seriously doubt that anything major will change. It's pretty much a done deal.

 

Originally Posted By ChiMike

>>" It would have been better to have torn down both garden wings and done two 6-8 story buildings to achieve the same amount of DVC units. "<<

That sounds like a great outcome, but they probably didn't want to lose that many hotel rooms.

 

Originally Posted By spacejockey

The pics are still up at
www.screamscape.com

 

Originally Posted By ChiMike

I'm glad to see he updated with the pics so quickly. And they are still up.

There is really no way Disney can contain this now. Maybe it won't matter, maybe it will be like Screamscape's Stitch explosion rumor. I would agree with everyone else and say again that it's probably going to be reality.

 

Originally Posted By ChiMike

>>Yeah ... and wouldn't you know it, they're the same ones trying to spin Cars $300 million plus and climbing worldwide BO as a 'disappointment' ... and we haven't even talked about consumer products, which are flying off the shelf, DVDs (which will be huge) and future use of characters. This is a billion-dollar franchise...<<

Just wanted to throw in that we have the Disney company to thank if they go ahead and make Cars the first Pixar DVD release to not have a 2 Disc set available. Still waiting for my Lilo & Stitch one.

 

Originally Posted By Spirit of 74

<<I'm glad to see he updated with the pics so quickly. And they are still up.

There is really no way Disney can contain this now. Maybe it won't matter, maybe it will be like Screamscape's Stitch explosion rumor. I would agree with everyone else and say again that it's probably going to be reality.>>

The only reason the renderings disappeared was because they are authentic. If they weren't, Disney wouldn't have gotten to thems so quickly ...

BTW, is it just me or are things awfully quiet around here?

The WDI massacre must be underway behind the scenes.

 

Originally Posted By RoadTrip

Actually, the DVC resort is going to be built using forced perspective like Main Street and in reality will only be 6 stories tall.

;-)

 

Originally Posted By RoadTrip

<<Disney did nOT want word leaking out, while SS is still selling -- who would choose to buy at SS when you could buy at Contemp?.>>

I'm not so sure. They can sell SS to the typical dork from Minnesota who knows nothing about Disney except Mickey Mouse.

Meanwhile, by letting the design firm 'leak' the photo for a couple of days they have all the uber-fans drooling and ready to plunk down their bucks before they break ground. It will be the first DVC development sold out before construction begins.

 

Originally Posted By ChiMike

Wouldn't you want that reversed though? Have a building with many floors that appears small? If that is even possible.

And remember MK's Main Street uses forced perspecive to a far lesser extent than Disneyland. Not you RT, but I hear that tidbit misused all the time. A lot of things at MK Main Street including the trains are full-scale or near-full scale.

 

Originally Posted By ChiMike

>>I'm not so sure. They can sell SS to the typical dork from Minnesota who knows nothing about Disney except Mickey Mouse.<<

Come on, give me some credit. I don't think my views are that extreme.

I would say that it would be hard to find most anybody to pick SS over Contemp without a serious pricing difference. Nobody is going to buy in with that little knowledge of what's happening around WDW.

>>Meanwhile, by letting the design firm 'leak' the photo for a couple of days they have all the uber-fans drooling and ready to plunk down their bucks before they break ground. It will be the first DVC development sold out before construction begins.<<

The only problem with that point is that most, if not all, of the Disney uber and DVC uber fans have already expected this, even before SS was announced as a project.

 

Originally Posted By ChiMike

But I agree with your point regarding how fast it will sell.

Also I wanted to say in case you weren't checking the threads that I thought your DL trip reports were A++++. I wouldn't have been able to find anything to disagree with even if I tried. I didn't try, btw.

Hemlich all the way.

 

Originally Posted By ChiMike

I forgot about the DVC thread, I better get over there!

 

Originally Posted By RoadTrip

<<Come on, give me some credit. I don't think my views are that extreme.>>

Hey... I was just having a little fun. I really don't take myself that seriously, so I don't have a problem with poking a little good natured fun at Minnesotans. You never give me that much grief. That just comes from a certain airline employee. And he is probably just jazzing me half the time anyway.

<<I would say that it would be hard to find most anybody to pick SS over Contemp without a serious pricing difference. Nobody is going to buy in with that little knowledge of what's happening around WDW.>>

The thing is only those folks who hang out at sites like this probably even know that Disney is doing a Contemporary DVC. So they will be able to sell Joe Tourist on SS without them even knowing Contemporary is coming.

 

Originally Posted By ChiMike

^ Before Contemp is for sale, yes. But if SS has not sold out yet and Disney feels they need to begin selling Contemp, I don't think the prospect will be in the dark. I would think regulations would require them to keep some things in ALL sales presentations consistent, one being what resorts are part of the program and what is for sale.

I don't know much about that stuff so maybe I'm overthinking it.

Regardless, I think the constuction will be hard to miss. Anyone traveling to the MK, who would be the ones buying into DVC for the most part, are going to wonder what's going on. Nothing has really happened at Seven Seas Lagoon since GF. I still remember my first reaction when I saw the GF project from the Contemp in person. WHOA!

 

Originally Posted By FerretAfros

"Wouldn't you want that reversed though? Have a building with many floors that appears small? If that is even possible."

That's what they did in the American Adventure pavilion in Epcot. It is actually 5 stories tall, but is designed to look like it is only 3. That is why it dominates the World Showcase skyline from across the lagoon, but really doesn't look that huge when you're standing next to it. And the problem with the Contemporary is that it will be seen mostly from very far away.

 

Originally Posted By ChiMike

>>That's what they did in the American Adventure pavilion in Epcot. It is actually 5 stories tall, but is designed to look like it is only 3.<<

Thanks for that. I forgot all about AA. Talk about not building 'em like they used to.

>>And the problem with the Contemporary is that it will be seen mostly from very far away.<<

No kidding. I think it will really throw of the balance of many sightlines.

 

Originally Posted By ssWEDguy

>> They can sell SS to the typical dork from Minnesota who knows nothing about Disney <<

Okay, I've gotta ask. I've been studying over the SS references and still can't figure what they're for. What is SS. (And I know I'll regret not being able to figure it out)

Also, I'm one of those dorks from Minnesota. Watch what you say -- I might have our former Governor Jesse Ventura come over and apply a steel folding chair to your backside.

 

Originally Posted By trekkeruss

SS= Saratoga Springs, the current DVC units being sold.