Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<I find that highly unlikely. Disney has not choice any further DVC need to be HUGE.>> I disagree. Especially when there are almost always discounted villas available for rent at OKW and SS for AP holders. There's too much DVC at WDW. Build a resort or two in SoCal. Put one in Hawaii. Or Colorado. Or NYC. Or Branson ... <<I think a better choice for a location would have been where Walt planned to build the Asia hotel on the Seven Seas Lagoon over by TTC opposite the Polynesian ( where the toparies use to be ).>> The site for the Asian Resort was taken up by the GF. Where you're taking about was considered/planned for a Mediterranean Resort in the early 90s, but can't be built on due to a large amount of sinkholes and unstable land in the area. <<This building is bland. And where its being placed is totally wrong for the WDW. Put it somewhere else.>> How about Atlantic City?
Originally Posted By RoadTrip I still don't believe it will be built according to the posted design. If Disney actually does that, I will have to admit that they've finally jumped the shark with DVC.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I agree as having dealt with architectural firms as a school board member while working on our 3rd high school - the level of completeness that design on line was at is far beyond proposal stage. The spatial completeness suggests a contract, or contract pending
Originally Posted By ChiMike Hopefully with AKL getting the to the head of the line, this potential resort could see a redesign.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 ^^^^^^^^^^ the only problem I see is if the number of rooms needed equal what was in that building, I am not sure what else they could do with the land that's available there.....
Originally Posted By ChiMike Agree. I wasn't completely against it because I understood that they were going to be able to sell the property very easily. And I like the idea of a walkway direclty to the GCC. I just thought that maybe it wasn't the official design, maybe there were some within power positions who also didn't like the look, maybe we will see something totally different when things come around. I'm sure there are other ways to get a large capacity. But, yes, I agree, it seemed to me an efficient way to get many units. While not inspiring, efficient.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 The Spirit hates to be the voice of bad news, but I fear the Contemporary DVC is being started (or at least the ground prep) as I type this. Had dinner tonight at the Cal Grill, which I am very happy to report is still incredible despite the chef change and we even have some cool new music playing including Beatles tunes, and was shocked to find a massive green mesh covered fence wrapped around the entire North Wing, half of the parking lot in front of said wing, all around the back, and even into Bay Lake. When I looked down from the observation level on the 4th floor, the parking lot was being torn up. Lights had been removed, trees had been cut down and it just appears like massive work is about to start. Massive. Did I say massive? Since nothing like this happened with the South Wing when it was rehabbed this year, well, you all do the math. It may not (let's pray) be the 16-story Fairfield like tacky timeshare highrise, but something big is happening there. Maybe one of the local lazy reporters who lurks here can look into this beyond what Disney's press office says?
Originally Posted By vbdad55 ^^^^^^^^^^^ glad to hear my favorite restaurant seems to be in good hands after the change also - as long as my tamarind filet doesn't leave the menu, I will be happy.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<glad to hear my favorite restaurant seems to be in good hands after the change also - as long as my tamarind filet doesn't leave the menu, I will be happy.>> No. That will always be on the menu, I think it (along with the pork) are just way too popular to toy with. They tried that and it didn't work. But the place is just consistently great. I can't say that about any other WDW restaurant ... certainly not over an 11-year period.
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy Pictures of some of the new North Garden Wing construction going on. From the monorail. <a href="http://ssdisney.home.att.net/ContempoMonorail/" target="_blank">http://ssdisney.home.att.net/C ontempoMonorail/</a>
Originally Posted By DVC_dad <<<I am not sure what else they could do with the land that's available there.....>>> MEGA CONTEMPO-PLAY GROUND!!!
Originally Posted By DVC_dad I get this sense of a foreboding collapse of the DVC... I'm not sure what it is, can't put my finger on it, but building more more more more more... It's like a balloon, is it not? What am I trying to say and why can't I get my mind around what I am thinking will be a problem at some point into the future? More ... more ... more ... more ... There are only so many people out there that want to buy in. Aren't there?
Originally Posted By ChiMike DVC_dad, let me welcome you to the ranks of those who have asked that question in the past. Something's going to break, and if it isn't DVC it will be the further need to discount the hotels. You can see that the theme park vacation market is being tapped out. 10 years ago an addition like Everest would have influenced significant growth. In today's climate it is more of a measure to keep things stable.
Originally Posted By Chelledun I'm not thrilled with the look of this new building, but the North Wing is currently looking TERRIBLE, so I will certainly be glad to see it go. It's embarrasing that guests see it when they ride the monorail!
Originally Posted By ChiMike >>It's embarrasing that guests see it when they ride the monorail!<< What else can they do? I can't blame them for that. Now if they go slowly like they did for Horizons then I would say they are sloppy.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <There are only so many people out there that want to buy in. Aren't there?< I thought so to at like 25,000 families, now that number is approaching 100,000 so who knows where the ceilingis ?
Originally Posted By ChiMike Not sure. Maybe 200K, maybe 300K; but in today's climate, the larger DVC grows the harder it is for them to raise rates on the hotels. Add a much more present rental market and you can see where this is going. I do worry what Disney will do 25 years from now when the DVC resorts need major improvement, the contracts haven't expired yet, and there isn't the demand for Disney sold DVC memberships as there is now. Talk about a rise in the maintenance fees...
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <Talk about a rise in the maintenance fees...< Fees have a % cap so it's not carte blanche - but I worry about the same time period
