Originally Posted By ecdc >>"I find it pure snobbery to call HoJo's a tacky resort"<< One man's snobbery is another's quality. Look, I'm not some rich snob who can only stand the Grand Californian, if that. My family works hard to save all year so we can make our annual sojourn. I've never stayed at GCH. I stayed on-site at Paradise Pier for the first time a few months ago. Every other time, I've stayed at Hojos. It's an ok hotel. I haven't minded because most of my trip is spent in the park. But I do hate that walk from Hojos. It has nothing to do with snobbery and no paper bag will be necessary. It has more to do with the urban sprawl Dave talked about. After staying on-site, I've determined its what I want in my vacation. But by all means, make yourself feel better by making personal comments about people who disagree with you.
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub I think the DVC is inclusive unless you use valet. But you will not have to pay taxes either. DVC does not have daily housekeeping. I think they replace towels after 3 days and remove trash. You do have the option to pay for daily housekeeping for a nominal fee. If you trust you DVC friend that is a great deal especially since they are so new.
Originally Posted By Jenn31 Thanks for the info everybody! And thanks amazed for the link, I got a lot of info off that!
Originally Posted By pecos bill Regarding post 81, you guys came off as arrogant snobs, plain and simple. Bringing that point to attention most certainly made me feel better. Pretty much anyone would rather stay at the Grand, but it really comes down to disposable income. If you have money to burn, thats fine, but please refrain from insulting those who dont by calling their choices tacky. I get the feeling that some of you are not so much interested in convenience and ambiance as status.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***Regarding post 81, you guys came off as arrogant snobs, plain and simple.*** I must have been reading a different thread. I detected no arrogant snobbery whatsoever. And yes, the pics I saw of HoJo's WERE tacky (from their very own website). Not saying I wouldn't stay there. Not even saying I wouldn't enjoy staying there. But it's no uber-classy place, to say the least. Hell, some Disney hotels are also tacky (All-Stars for sure, but even some of the others are a bit over the edge (and dated to boot!) as far as classy design is concerned...looking at you Contemporary Resort!). ***Bringing that point to attention most certainly made me feel better.*** We live to serve.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***please refrain from insulting those who dont by calling their choices tacky*** See, this is where you lose me. First of all, it was Darkbeer and others chiming in here to talk about what a waste of money GC was and how utterly FANTASTIC HoJo's is in comparison. Finally, a few people got real about the fact that the place IS a discount hotel (that's just a fact). But I think you're taking it personally. Nobody, I mean NOBODY on this thread accused anyone of having poor taste just for liking the HoJo's. Hell, I said a couple times I'd happily stay there. But let's call a spade a spade. You can stay at a tacky place for whatever reasons (it's convenient, it's reasonably priced, it's fun, it's relaxing etc, etc), and need not feel defensive as though people are attacking YOU personally just because they're critiquing the place! Oh, and by the way, there are PLENTY of people out there (some of them snobs, sure...but not ALL of them) who think ALL the Disney hotels are tacky. And that all of Disney is tacky. Or kitchy. Or whatever. Would I get pissed about their opinion and take it personally? Certainly not. They probably have a valid point! Doesn't matter, cause I still love Disney parks. And Disney hotels (except All-Star...ugh!).
Originally Posted By ecdc Sign me up for post 87. This all started with DB's over-the-top defense of Hojos by slamming the GCH. Some of us explained why we like staying on-site (you know, since that the title of the thread and all...) and apparently people decided to get all offended over it.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<Oh, and by the way, there are PLENTY of people out there (some of them snobs, sure...but not ALL of them) who think ALL the Disney hotels are tacky. And that all of Disney is tacky. Or kitchy. Or whatever.>> It's worse than that. Disney is fake! It's a world of adventures...for the timid!
Originally Posted By Darkbeer OH MY GOSH! The OP asked for OPINIONS... and SOME were not 100% positive... LP is a DISCUSSION Board, and there is not just "One" correct opinion, even though some folks thing if you disagree with them, you should be banned.... IMHO, the thread was to discuss the GCH and compare it to other nearby Hotels, and then try and make an educated decision in regards to which hotel to book. I posted my thoughts and opinions... so be it!
Originally Posted By Jenn31 "I get the feeling that some of you are not so much interested in convenience and ambiance as status" What an awful thing to say! First of all GCH is not a "status" symbol Second of all, not one of the posts on this thread has given me the slightest inclination that anyone here beleives that GCH is the place to stay because of status. Quite the contrary, I found that almost everyone who posted truly enjoy the GCH because of ambience, ammenities, etc. GCH is a Disney hotel not some posh digs in beverly hills, GHEESH, HONESTLY! The entire point of me posting this thread was to get personal experiences from people who have stayed there, to let me know why they stay and what they love about this particular disney property. I don't know how it turned into a game of my hotel's better than your hotel. To each his own. Hotels are a personal choice, likes, dislikes, cost, etc. If you dislike GCH that much or the "snobs" that stay there why bother posting on a thread geared toward GCH?
Originally Posted By amazedncal2 As I said in post #17 >>> This has been hashed over and over again on LP, with both sides firmly planted on either side of Harbor.<<< This happens each and every time someone asks for an opinion about a DLR hotel. Seriously, everytime. Jenn, please just continue with your excitement and planning and ask any questions you may have. We stayed in a one bedroom DVC but I remember what the studio looked like from the tour. Seriously, especially with your little one, you will be happy in the DVC Villa. Our DD and her family were staying offsite at the same time and were practically drooling at the convenience of the Villa. They used our Villa for their afternoon breaks
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance Yeah, normally you'd have to pay a lot extra to get the convenience of having a kitchenette. I mean just having it for small things like coffee or warming up some milk for your little one, anything, it's really handy.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>I posted my thoughts and opinions... so be it!<< And people posted different thoughts and opinions. And there was no problem with any of that. Except you weren't the one labeled or attacked, were you. Only the people who disagreed with your assessment of Hojos were, so let's not pretend like you were attacked for your opinion. You weren't.
Originally Posted By Mr X ^---what he said. And fwiw I had no problem with DB and other folks chiming in (even though frankly it wasn't quite in the spirit of the clearly titled OP, which certainly doesn't sound like a request for a pros and cons list), that's the way discussions go sometimes. But then, when others say "hang on a sec, it's not as great as all THAT" suddenly people get offended? Well, I suppose then the "snobs" should be rightly offended at the trashing of THEIR choice in hotels as well, no? Who here has taken Darkbeer or anyone else to task for bashing the Grand Californian? But that's the whole point, they don't deserve to be bashed for their opinion. It's just their opinion. <---thinks Rainforest Cafe is tacky and lame, yet doesn't hold any negative opinions towards those folks who enjoy the place
Originally Posted By Darkbeer >>Except you weren't the one labeled or attacked, were you. Only the people who disagreed with your assessment of Hojos were, so let's not pretend like you were attacked for your opinion. You weren't.<< Post 87 (ecdc)... >>This all started with DB's over-the-top defense of Hojos by slamming the GCH.<< And as for Mr. X, let's go back to post 9... >>So my vote is to be SMART and save your money on the Hotel... And maybe use it for a meal at Napa Rose << Did I bash the GCH there, no, I said to go enjoy a very nice meal at the GCH, just, that IMHO, that the hotel ROOM is not worth the price... Did I pick on GCH's "Sleeping Bag" policy... YES, but it is a TRUE clear statement for most rooms, Disney will ONLY give you a sleeping bag, and not a rollaway... <a href="http://www.everything.com/Choosing-Your-Disneys-Grand-Californian-Hotel/" target="_blank">http://www.everything.com/Choo...n-Hotel/</a> >>
Originally Posted By ecdc Well this thread officially jumped the shark. BTW, all my friends think my Haunted Mansion and Tiki Room shadowboxes displayed in my home are tacky. I think my friends suck.
Originally Posted By Darkbeer OOPS, internet Hickup... The quote from Everything.com >>Grand Californian Hotel Guest Rooms and Rates Rooms have a king-size bed, two queen-size beds, or one queensize bed and bunk beds. You can get cribs, sleeping bags, and extra cushions on request, but they don’t have rollaway beds. Rates vary by season and the room’s view, but for one or two people in a room, rates start at $400 to $450 per night.<< And more... <a href="http://www.holidays-uncovered.co.uk/usa/california/anaheim/disneys-grand-californian-hotel.html" target="_blank">http://www.holidays-uncovered....tel.html</a> >>There is no room for a rollaway bed in the standard size rooms.<<
Originally Posted By Darkbeer Look, ecdc, you have the right to YOUR Opinion, I have the right to mine, and so does every other user here at LP... Why are you crying Crokidile Tears.... Or is this becoming "World Events".... I do have to laugh at what SPP posted in this thread... what did that user add to the conversation?
