Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>Seems the only pavilion left untouched is Spaceship Earth.<< Incorrect my dear friend.. They still have that butt ugly wand attached to the geosphere, effectively killing the integrity of the structure and it's futuristic feel. As for SE's indoors.. I woould hope for them to go in there and make MAJOR changes... the ride as it is is very 1980s. They need new sets, new and improved AAs, new special effects that actually enhance the story and not just there to look pretty. Spaceship Earth is just pathetic in it's current state. ..And don't even get me started about the post show area's current conditions.
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> The way out of the pavilion though.... A vibrating floor with nothing else to enhance the illusion. Extremely poor in execution << I'd forgotten this, and I agree. The exit hydrolater effect was not at least equivalent to the entrance effect. It was faster, and probably done that way to move people out of the pavilion more quickly once they'd decided to leave. Seems to me SOME sort of illusion other than vibrating floors should have been employed. QUESTION -- Were the exit hydrolaters about where the current pavilion exit is? Or were they more inboard, on the entrance side to the current merchandise location?
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> Or maybe you need to take a very long and hard Quality Control Walk with TDLFAN... << I'm ready. Let's do this thing....
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom I was over the hydrolators years ago. I have to admit, I like the look of the New Living Seas. Its got some life now instead of looking like a underwater tomb. It was so dull before. The new wall paint has really livened things up a lot.
Originally Posted By ChiMike ssWEDguy: The exit hydrolaters are one component that led to my previous comments about the regressive nature of these updates. While they were a less impressive follow-up to the downward hydrolater, they were still more dynamic than the current exit. Which is basically the same location where the hydrolaters were. And yes I do agree with the idea that they were less impressive because they cycled faster to get people out of the pavilion. Regardless, they were a great ending to the original pavilion, a way to tie things up and reinforce/remind guests that they are being transported back to the surface.
Originally Posted By ChiMike ^^^ To answer other responses, that is why I give them credit for a small little touch like the glass which is at least better than standard doors, but the entire approach is still an embarrassment compared to what Disney is and should be capable of. I've always disliked the sliding doors that have accompanied the original Epcot pavilions. It was easier to look past them when they entered into great queues or showplaces like Mexico, but sliding doors into hallways like in UoE or gift shops like TLS is really pathetic. I've seen better design in third world countries. At least the old entrance sliding doors for TLS led to a nice mood-setting queue, like Horizons and JII.
Originally Posted By ChiMike >>nd yes I do agree with the idea that they were less impressive because they cycled faster to get people out of the pavilion.<< Which I always thought was the reason that there were panels in place of the moving rockwork.
Originally Posted By danyoung >QUESTION -- Were the exit hydrolaters about where the current pavilion exit is?< As I recall, they were right where the current doors are now. Or did they open into a small foyer and then you exited through another set of doors? Can't remember. And while I do agree that the current situation of entry and exit is bad show, I'm all for waiting and seeing what they come up with. I'm always hopeful, always a Pollyanna. . .
Originally Posted By ChiMike >>As I recall, they were right where the current doors are now. Or did they open into a small foyer and then you exited through another set of doors? Can't remember.<< No the hydrolaters basically emptied to outside with a slight overhang above your head. Basically as it is now. >>And while I do agree that the current situation of entry and exit is bad show, I'm all for waiting and seeing what they come up with.<< I am too, I have always said this is a step in the right direction. It's just hard to ignore obvious downgrades with some of the supporting features.
