Originally Posted By Dabob2 And I quote: "The banks responded to political pressure by lowering the barriers to credit, and now they're being blamed for handing out too much money." That sounds like an assertion to me, but you can play semantic games yet again and call it an opinion if you want. Just don't expect it to do anything but further erode your credibility. <I backed up my opinion with reasons, and some examples, just as many others have done on this board. > No you didn't. The best you did to back up that assertion/opinion was saying that that one bill "must have" passed because of pressure to lend to the poor. But that doesn't follow - it could just as easily have passed because the financial industry lobbied hard for it. You've got nothin' here.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <That's a sure fire way to kill your stock price. If anything, public held companies tend to do the opposite.> Getting hauled before the SEC, accused of crimes, and fined isn't so good for your stock price either.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Just don't expect it to do anything but further erode your credibility.> As I've stated in the past, I really don't care what you think about my credibility. If I'm wrong, then show me, but continuing to keep repeating your misguided opinion doesn't do it.
Originally Posted By jonvn "Do you, on purpose, try to look like a clueless idiot? " I may be a clueless idiot, but at least I left junior high a long time ago. Keep us informed about the senior prom.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <I left junior high a long time ago.> Maybe in body, but not in mind.
Originally Posted By jonvn Yes, of course. So, when's the "I'm not, but what are you" line gonna come out? Child.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh Yes, you're so much more mature because you start calling names first.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <<Just don't expect it to do anything but further erode your credibility.> <As I've stated in the past, I really don't care what you think about my credibility. If I'm wrong, then show me, but continuing to keep repeating your misguided opinion doesn't do it.> Nice try. Again, it was your assertion. It's incumbent on YOU to back it up, if you can. You were called on it, asked to back it up, and you couldn't. That's not an opinion, that's a fact. It is not up to me or any subsequent poster to "prove it didn't happen, then." Or are you still trying to pretend it wasn't an assertion?
Originally Posted By fkurucz <<Getting hauled before the SEC, accused of crimes, and fined isn't so good for your stock price either.>> That only happens if you get caught. This is Corporate America we are talking about here.
Originally Posted By fkurucz ^^And to be honest, the market is quite forgiving of illegal shenanigans. Does anyone still recall Hewlett Packard's "pretextgate" scandal last year? After the Chairman (Patricia Dunn) fell on her sword it was all forgotten.
Originally Posted By jonvn "you're so much more mature because you start calling names first." I simply stated the truth. That you lie and play semantics (which is basically lying) when backed into a corner.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Again, it was your assertion. It's incumbent on YOU to back it up, if you can. You were called on it, asked to back it up, and you couldn't. That's not an opinion, that's a fact. It is not up to me or any subsequent poster to "prove it didn't happen, then." > Again, if I'm wrong, then show me, but continuing to keep repeating your misguided opinion doesn't do it.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <Again, if I'm wrong, then show me, but continuing to keep repeating your misguided opinion doesn't do it.> You can cut and paste all you like, but it's getting pathetic. "Prove it didn't happen, then" is just as lame an argument and just as adolescent a response the 5th time as it was the first, you know. By continuing to repeat it, you simply underline the fact that you've got nothing else.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <You can cut and paste all you like, but it's getting pathetic.> Yes. Why don't you stop repeating your opinion, and either let it go or show I'm wrong?
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Because it's up to you to prove your assertion. It was YOUR assertion. It's not up to anybody else to "prove it didn't happen, then."
Originally Posted By inlandemporer That's correct. DouglasDubh, you obviously can't prove your original assertion from #7. Several people pointed out how ridiculous it was and asked you to back it up. And this "prove me wrong" stuff is really transparent. You're really exposing yourself and your methods here.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Because it's up to you to prove your assertion.> No, it's not. If you don't think it's true, you can chose not to believe it, or to state, "I don't think that's true", or something similar. I never said you HAVE to prove it didn't happen. I've simply said that repeating your opinion over and over doesn't make my opinion untrue.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <That's correct. DouglasDubh, you obviously can't prove your original assertion from #7.> This isn't geometry, so no, I wouldn't be able to "prove" it. I believe it happened the way I said it happened, but I also recognize that no amount of evidence I present will satisfy some here, so there's no point in trying. <Several people pointed out how ridiculous it was and asked you to back it up.> Several people might have claimed it was ridiculous, but this doesn't make it so. Also, I was asked to "prove" things that I didn't assert, not back up what I said.
