Originally Posted By Eric Paddon But gee Passholder, you never feel compelled to describe anything he's done as "the worst form of human behavior." Would it really be all that difficult for you to have just said with regard to Ann Coulter that "I don't have anything to do with her. I just don't"?
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder The parts about surmising the dead husbands could have been planning to divorce the widows anyway, and accusing them of enjoying their husbands' deaths, there's just no excusing that. Period None. No decent human being would endorse that, and as we've seen on this site, with a few notable exceptions, even those on the left and right can agre on that. So to say she's the lowest of the low for propounding that opinion, and actually allowing herself to be goaded by some right wing media lapdogs (Hannity did this all afternoon last week) to say even worse things, makes her even worse than the lowest of the low. This type of vitriol removes any chance of polite discourse on substantive issues, and reduces differences to petty bullying and name calling, and in the Rutten link I provided, Coulter even says she sees nothing wrong with the name calling. it's cowardly, is what it is. And it surely isn't satire, because this type of cowardly messagae that hinds behind hideous insults belies any courage whatsoever to discuss things rationally. Every word out of her mouth that perpetuates these attacks is so much bile and vomit.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "And I refuse to let you define what constitutes a right-wing site, Dabob." Ahh, but you get to define "satire" and "fundamental truths".
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder The next time Franken says something this bad, and that will be the first time he does, I'll humor you, Eric.
Originally Posted By Eric Paddon No decent human being would call what Ann Coulter's done "the lowest form of human behavior". Period. I'll save that for the people the Jersey Girls refuse to blame for 9/11 since they spend more time slandering the President for cheap partisan points and shaming all other victims of 9/11 by using their victimhood to hide behind their contemptible remarks. The Jersey Girls were the ones who by their actions made "polite discourse on substantive issues" impossible to begin with, and all Ann did was point out how the Left by using the Jersey Girls and Cindy Sheehan (the Tokyo Rose of our time) have made that impossible.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Come on be original, quick, because you just turned the corner towards Admin city again.
Originally Posted By Eric Paddon The very fact that you say Franken has never done anything bad is proof enough of why people like Ann Coulter have to write their books to begin with, Passholder.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "The very fact that you say Franken has never done anything bad" Quote me. I didn't say that.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <And I refuse to let you define what constitutes a right-wing site, Dabob. > Sorry, you don't get to play that game. All I said was that I'd seen calls for Moore's demise on right wing websites. I have. I'm sure in a more honest moment, you'd admit they're out there. That's all I said, and you don't get to move the goalposts. Still waiting for you to call Coulter's vile comments vile, as so many more honorable conservatives have done.
Originally Posted By Eric Paddon I didn't name any names in that post, Passholder, just stated a principled POV.
Originally Posted By Eric Paddon Nope Dabob, you were challenged to cite an example of a mainstream conservative site. When I cite stuff against Ann Coulter, I don't post some run of the mill thing from a message board, I refer only to articles in the printed media elite or comments by elected officials. Big difference. Don't hold your breath waiting, Dabob, because your very reaction only vindicates what Ann said and the fundamental truth of how the Left's religion has sacred cows you can't say anything about no matter how outrageous their conduct. As for "honorable" conservatives condemning her, since I've seen nothing from mainstream conservative outlets condemning her at National Review or the other aforementioned sites, I can easily dismiss that comment of yours.
Originally Posted By Eric Paddon "The next time Franken says something this bad, and that will be the first time he does" That was your remark, and evidently it would seem that for someone who says he has nothing to do with Al Franken, you still seem to regard him as infallible.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom <a href="http://www.iwf.org/inkwell/default.asp" target="_blank">http://www.iwf.org/inkwell/def ault.asp</a> <<News Flash: Hillary Doesn’t Like Ann Coulter What--you knew that already? Well, this time it’s because Ann had the temerity to criticize the "Jersey Girls"--the four 9/11 widows who decided that the massacre at the World Trade Center towers was actually the fault of George W. Bush, not the terrorists who bashed hijacked airplanes into the towers. (Thanks, Town Hall.) The Jersey Girls were also miffed that Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney, and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice got to testify at the 9/11 investigation behind closed doors instead of being publicly pilloried for their supposed sins. Oh, and Bush finished reading that children’s story on 9/11, instead of bolting out the door and throwing a roomful of schoolkids into panic. So the Jersey Girls endorsed John F. Kerry for president in 2004. Now, along comes mean ol’ Ann, in her new book, "Godless: The Church of Liberalism," pointing out the obvious--that the Jersey Girls alone of the hundreds of women left widows that tragic day who decided to make political hay out of their misfortune. And Hillary did not like that one bit. Calling the four "the Witches of East Brunswick" after the New Jersey town where two of them live, Coulter wrote theat they acted "as if the terrorist attacks happened only to them," and "I’ve never seen people enjoying their husbands’ deaths so much." Hillary, who’s obviously on the presidential trail herself these days, declared that she found it "unimaginable that anyone in the public eye could launch a vicious, mean-spirited attack on people whom I’ve known over the last four and a half years to be concerned deeply about the safety and security of our country." Well, sorry, Hillary, and sorry, Jersey Girls: Yes, of course my sympathy and sorrow went out to you during the days after 9/11, as it did for all the others who lost husbands, wives, children, and siblings in that dreadful episode. But those others chose to mourn with dignity. You decided to play partisan politics. How surprised can you be that some people have taken offense?>>>
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Apparently, Eric, for all of your vast knowledge, you either don't know a qualifier when you see one or choose to ignore it. Your call. Give ya a clue. The word "this".
Originally Posted By Eric Paddon Your "qualifier" counts for very little Passholder. You chose to exempt Al Franken from the ranks of those who've done outrageous deeds far more serious than anything Ann has been beaten up on, even though unlike Ann, Franken uses his satire to make a point that is intellectually dishonest. And you didn't use any qualifier when you made Ann Coulter the standard by which the lowest forms of human behavior must be judged.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Hey Eric, your extreme bias slip is showing. Dispute the following, since I've said it and I'm intellectually dishonest: The earth is round. The sky is blue. The sun is bright. This thread has run its course.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "SingleParkPassholder and mele are hotties." Well, Jim, I've SEEN pictures of you, so right back at ya big guy. Mele, hmm..
Originally Posted By Eric Paddon Passholder, I think the lesson for you to learn is that you should remember that in a War on Terror, there are certain standards for who is more worthy of our "hate" or judgment for the "lowest of human behavior." The only reason why a book like Ann's becomes necessary is because of the craven acceptance of those like Franken, Moore, the Jersey Girls, Cindy Sheehan in a level of respectability they were never entitled to in the first place.
