Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub Makes me wonder who is living in a Fantasyworld/land? If it means anything to you Dave and Dan ...As I wander thru WDW and DL I often think of returning to discuss with Lpers on this site. I also think of the many friends that have disappeared and miss. Especially the people that are able to travel the real world and share. It certainly would have been Walt Disney's greatest wish to inspire and to explore and discover ... and discuss...the good and the bad.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Indeed. It was the inspiration of growing up at DL that inspired me to research a number of the real themes dealt with (travel, the frontier, pirates and the future) ,I learned to fence and sailed a square masted rigger from the UK to gibralter in my teen years (inspired by my love of pirates from PotC). When I was in the alps ,I went to see the matterhorn even though it was a 100 mile diversion because of DL. I always wanted to visit Africa and south America thanks to the jungle cruise (and have been on the Congo ,Nile and amazon in the real world since. I studied international relations for my BSc and I swear it's a small world being my fav as a kid inspired that. America the Beautiful wet my appetite as a kid to see the national parks. And I often thought of ATIS when in chemistry. And the peoplemover and monorail made me passionate about alternative transport and has inspired some of my real world work in community transport. And it is not just Walt, epcot center and DAK inspired me in oh so many ways. In fact I was introduced to digital pen and paper at inventions and came back to the UK, pioneering the tech in health and social care, saving millions of £'s and making people's lives better. It also led to me winning a European innovation award and delivering the keynote speech at Anoto's international conference in Copenhagen in 2005 to delegates from Japan, Russia, India, Brazil, the us, Canada and a host of Europeans. And yes, I would like my children to be inspired by a trip to a Disney park. And tsmm is not the way to do it. I own the game and have a 3D TV at home.
Originally Posted By leobloom >> My condensation in my tone was fully realized. << No wonder the windows fogged up in here.
Originally Posted By Manfried No name calling please. We disagree and passionately. But it seems some don't like others to disagree with their view, so they resort to name calling.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Maybe sometimes, when reasoned debate does not work, it can highlight a different tack.
Originally Posted By danyoung >But it seems some don't like others to disagree with their view, so they resort to name calling.< There are many ways of being rude beyond name calling. And you, Manfried, are being rude. I disagree with davewasbaloo on a lot of things, but we always manage to carry on a discussion that highlights both sides. I know I learn a lot from these debates, and I'd like to think he does too. It's hard to continue a discussion that is no longer friendly.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo We also agree on much too Dan, but I respect your opinion when we disagree and while I may not always come around to your line of thinking, but I often better understand the why's and what for.
Originally Posted By Manfried Oh and others don't have "tone?" My "tone" is different because I disagree on some point and rather than try to refute it or discuss it resort to name calling? I don't think so. It is entirely a different thing. Should I call anyone a name because I don't like their "tone?" No, never.
Originally Posted By danyoung Manfried, we're probably not going to see eye to eye on this one. But if you go back and read this thread, you definitely went on the attack first, and were far more violent in your responses and with your disdain for others and their opinions. If you can't see that, well, life goes on. But when more than one person has a problem with your style, there just might be something to consider there.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo a question for you Manfried: what would you prefer, the debate and questioning (and yes, I called you a name when I felt I could not get through in the hopes of getting your attention) or that your posts are ignored (which I know is a popular option people elect). Personally I always prefer an open conversation in the hopes we can reach an accord.
Originally Posted By Manfried Dan, using names is violent. Disagreeing, even condescending is not. At least, that is my view.
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub Sorry that you feel this way, I feel the condescending attitude more than the violence in this discussion about Country Bear Christmas. Honestly perhaps you should report your feelings of violence to the mods along with your reason of explanation. They know how to handle situations on LP with respect for all.
Originally Posted By danyoung I don't see that asking someone why they're being such an ass about things is the same as calling names.
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub i hope that Davewasbaloo will use the proper spelling for his thoughts next time. I am sure he meant to use asinine and it was a simple mistake.
Originally Posted By leobloom >> Dan, using names is violent. << Actually, it's not. Punching someone is violent. Doing bodily harm to someone is violent. Using a name isn't physical. It isn't violent.
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub I guess you could feel threatened by words online if you thought that person knew your location. I would think anybody in an abusive relationship would feel very frightened by words. i just think it should be reported and handled by the moderators if for no other reason than to end this soon. It has becomes an argument that can't be beneficial in this discussion about Country Bear Christmas. I wonder if the entire thread can be deleted since it is insulting to the original poster and the Country Bears in the holiday Spirit. Unless this makes WDW realize we definitely need more Christmas right this very minute.See how grumpy we all are because we did not get enough of the holidays in October and November and December. Please Mr WDW we need the Country Bears Holiday and the Holiday lights returned to Epcot and the Dove of Peace flying over the Xmas tree. Maybe some extra sparkle in Small World and the ghosts could technically decorate for the holidays also. It will make the new year for 2013 more friendly for us all. I thank you and look forward to the holiday season in full splendor.
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub ugh is it really just Jan.5th? Something tells me it is gonna be a long year!
Originally Posted By leobloom I guess if you made a threat, it could be construed as potential violence. Calling someone a blockhead or a moron or an idiot, however, isn't a threat. Glad we can debate semantics since there's nothing exciting happening at WDW.
