Originally Posted By SuzieQ I don't read the speculation sites at all. I find they get hostile, and people get too emotionally caught up in them. And, honestly, as much as I love Disney, it's a theme park. When I used to read them, I'd get caught up in all of the 'hulabaloo' and have to stop myself to realize what a waste of emotion it was.
Originally Posted By teddibubbles > teddi & Bubbles < BEARS! teddibubbles wants them bears back! G I V E .. M E .. M Y ..B E A R S !!! PLEASEEEEEEEE :-D
Originally Posted By maniac_disney Well I don´t know about the current rumor but I remember very well infamous Jim Hill talking on another website (not his official) about the Disneyland´s Country Bears replacement (by Pooh) and that James Rasulo when he was chief of Disneland Paris, had asked for one full group of Bears for future development of DLP´s Frontierland.
Originally Posted By jonvn "But Jon, how would you even know he's the least accurate if you never read anything he writes??" I ALMOST never read anything he writes. And I have read his stuff in the past. It's not accurate information. "But Lutz is less accurate than Jim Hill?" I think so. He's also less accurate than Screamscape. Less accurate than Marcie, as well. Sometimes she confirms what he says, sometimes not. Less accurate than Westcoaster, too. Some people here have said things like "Al Lutz has said this for months, so it is going to be like this." which is really simply ridiculous. He's not an oracle of truth. "I read Lutz' stuff voraciously. For the same reason that some folks buy and read the Enquirer, People, etc." I don't. I don't read the Enquirer, either. I'm interested in factual information. I rather doubt the 25% figure is low. It's probably rather high. I will read his stuff when people are talking about it and refer to it. When I do, I have to pour through the drivel to get to what they are talking about. Sometimes there is a nugget of information, but mostly it's junk. I've seen too many of his comments saying "This is going to happen," when nothing of the sort happens. I've seen too many of his statements that were so ridiculous they'd never possibly happen as being explained by "budget cuts." And I've seen too many people being hurt by his false reporting and weak fact checking. One person being hurt is enough. He has gotten better in recent times. But I still have no use for his brand of negativity and anger. It's a theme park. And it needs to be dealt with on an emotionally appropriate level.
Originally Posted By jonvn Now, this is my opinion on that anyway. If someone else wants to read his stuff, ok by me. He gets lots of readers. I am just not a fan, for lots of reasons.
Originally Posted By ArchtMig >>>Now, this is my opinion on that anyway. If someone else wants to read his stuff, ok by me. He gets lots of readers. I am just not a fan, for lots of reasons.<<< That's fine. Everyone sees different things through their own individual different colored glasses. I tend to think that Lutz is more accurate than Hill. In fact, Hill has backed off the parks rumors beat dramatically, and concentrates much more on the animation and film making side of the biz, and also spends lots of time putting out stuff like his current Scrooge thing. Screamcape to me seems to just repeat rumors that have been posted long before on other sites, or at best, just reports on what's already well known and obvious. Westcoaster hasn't had anything worthwhile in a real long while. Mostly it seems to be a bunch of juvenile chatroom inside joke crap, and it's very tedious to have to wade through all that stuff time after time just to get a real nugget of info that might be worth the slog through the mud. And I don't really need a website that shows pics of construction when Darkbeer does a much better job of it (and much more frequently) and conveniently provides links to his pics here on the boards. Marcie, I guess, is in a position with the company where she can't really give out much information. But what she finally does post is great, and I lap it up. But it's much too little, and too spread out. No... for me, Lutz is the guy. Reading his stuff is like chomping on a big box of popcorn while watching a summer action movie. Doesn't do anything to change the world, and sometimes even stretches credibility, but you just turn your disbelief knob way down and enjoy the ride. You don't have to like him, Jon, it's your preference, but you really ought to admit that he fills a big niche. Happy New Years.
Originally Posted By ChampDisney >>I've heard that DreamWorks bought them or something like...<< Where? When? To what purpose?<< I just heard it from a close friend but after doing research I have not yet came across anything about DreamWorks buying the audio animatronics but I did searched up wikipedia & it only gave facts about Big Al...... The exact same Audio Animatronic structure used for Big Al was reused to make up the structure of the Oogie Boogie Audio Animatronic in the Haunted Mansion Holiday attraction at Disneyland until 2005 when an all new animatronic was added.
Originally Posted By jonvn "You don't have to like him, Jon, it's your preference, but you really ought to admit that he fills a big niche." Not for me he doesn't, unless that niche is a lot of empty hostility.
Originally Posted By ChampDisney <<1. The Country Bears are not a Pixar creation.>> Since when did everything have to be Pixar over at Calfornia Adventure? Tomorrowland basically has everything Pixar from Buzz, Nemo, & maybe even the Incredibles. Calfornia Adventure has a Bugs Land & a Monsters ride, parade, oh can't forget about the rumored Cars attraction. Whoopie its a Pixar theme park all the sudden but wait TOT is not based by a Pixar film either is the Muppets & so on. And wait aren't the Country Bears hillbillies? Ever heard of the Beverly Hillbillies? So look it goes good to me.
Originally Posted By jonvn He was being sarcastic. It's a form of humor. Sometimes people don't get it or realize.
Originally Posted By jonvn It's ok. I don't think the bears are going to come back, though. Sorry.... Maybe they'll come up with something even better. You know, Adventure Thru Inner Space was a great ride, and I wish they'd bring it back, but it's not ever coming back, either. Enjoy it in your memories.
Originally Posted By markedward <Enjoy it in your memories.> As much as some people get into "virtual reality" stuff, I wouldn't mind if LP created a discussion section called "Armchair Imagineering". I really enjoy reading peoples ideas for a modernized Adventure Through Inner Space or interesting ideas for all new attractions. Nothing wrong with wanting an attraction back, or sharing with other fans how you'd like to see it done. But, as jonvn would probably agree, have fun and don't get TOO worked up about anything ever coming to pass in the real world. Just my two cents' worth.
Originally Posted By jonvn I think ATIS would work really well as a suspended roller coaster type attraction. It would be an Omnimover, but instead of hooked from below, it'd be suspended, and could still turn. And could also go through some fast dips and helixes. That would be quite a ride.
Originally Posted By ArchtMig ^^^ They'll no doubt test the new vehicles on the Peter Pan track some time in the early morning hours.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA <...and much appreciated. It's the first step towards bringing the park out of its initial limited provinciality.> It's not the theme. It's the execution of the theme. A superior group of designers and artists could make a great themepark using the theme 'cardboard.' If 'California' was chosen as the theme, you have to be more clever to make things work. Not the theme. It's the execution of the theme. Or have I said that 498 times since the opening of DCA?
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA You're right. I forgot about that one post before. Thanks mrichmondj.
Originally Posted By melekalikimaka They would have to do a *lot* of retooling for anyone in my family to be interested in a Country Bears attraction.
Originally Posted By friendofdd I always enjoyed the Country Bears and would like to see a similar attraction. Perhaps it is possible to program for a larger number of songs, with each show being "random". One would not grow tired of the presentation so easily, then.
