Originally Posted By Disneydanny Ok I just pposted this over at WDWMAGIC.com bu i'll say it here too. when will WDW executives wise up and give the Vacation Hoedown a second Chance?? while the Original show is LOADED with songs Disney has to pay roalties on The Vacation show has what *3* the rest being parodies and unless i'm mistaken youb don't have to pay for those.
Originally Posted By libertysquare76 They still perform. I just came back from WDW and was a bit upset by the lack of people in the CBJ. People in there talked all the way through (its not like its a long show). A refurb is good, esp on the audio. I worry that the parks will convert into havens of thrill rides!, keep stuff like the CBJ and you keep what seperates Disney from the others.
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 <<<I worry that the parks will convert into havens of thrill rides!, keep stuff like the CBJ and you keep what seperates Disney from the others>>> I'm with you 100%
Originally Posted By NikkiLOVESMickey ^^^^^I third that emotion. Thrill rides are fine, but I go to Disney for its Disneyness (I made a new word!), not thrill rides.
Originally Posted By lilgoofymom I am a former Thrill Ride junkie. I now cannot ride coasters and other thrill rides due to health problems. My 17yr. old DD never has liked roller coasters. That was our disappointment when Horizons and World of Motion were taken out. I forth the emotion about not taking out The Country Bears or any of the gentle rides and shows. That is why we go to WDW over places much closer like Six Flags. Six Flags and Carowinds and other parks like that have nothing to really offer my family.
Originally Posted By tonyanton liberty...I think it depends on the crowd. I've been in packed houses on my last few trips to CBJ with people still singing along and stomping their feet. The most annoying part (like so many other attractions at WDW) was the flash photography during the show.
Originally Posted By libertysquare76 I agree actually about the flash pics, however I noticed that the 'rustic' cast member working in the show advised that everyone should get their cameras out when all the bears were out at the finale. When i first visited WDW either you couldn't take pics or people didn't out of respect. I love the Hall of Presidents but now there are flashes everywhere when the chiefs are revealed.
Originally Posted By Disneydanny I wonder why it is that in Fl's show you are allowed to use the flash option on youur camera (During the Finale) but here in CA it was a no-no except for the last day.
Originally Posted By Hista98 actually on the last day it was a no-no still, they just knew no one would listen to the rule so they ignored it
Originally Posted By Disneydanny Looks like we are going to have to go to Tokyo if we ever want to see the Christmas show again. rumor has it Management feels overlays in general arn't worth the return on investment.
Originally Posted By oc_dean I heard they want to make the Country Bear Jamboree more "relevant" and are going to be adding several Disney Characters. But you won't notice them! They'll just blend in nicely!
Originally Posted By ChiMike Sssshh Dean!!!.. Before you know it, it will be Brother Bear Idol presented with Disney's Digital 3D technology. Rutt and Tuke appear as AA judges on the wall. Guests will be able to watch Kenai, Koda & Friends musically compete -virtually- on 3D screens for the audience's vote. WDI will masterfully use Living Character technology to faithfully present the complicated and dynamic characters of Brother Bear in a 3D world. Without the burden of antiquated AA technology they will be able to faithfully present Kenai, Koda, et al. performing complex Jammin' out dance moves. Modernizing this attraction to a true 21st century Jamboree, this generation will connect to this generation's A.D.D. guests who will fastpass and then download the winning act on I-Tunes upon their return home.
Originally Posted By ChiMike STRIKE THAT: this attraction will connect to this generation's A.D.D. guests who will fastpass and then download the winning act on I-Tunes upon their return home.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 I am sure we will see the Christmas show return this year, right Phil? Hey, you could offer the show as a MVMCP extra and raise the price of a ticket by $10 a head ... and those free cookies ... how about buy them from one of them Dollar Stores after they've expired? Gotta think outside the box as the cliche goes.
Originally Posted By ChiMike Yet, Disneyland, a less attended ... so thus, less popular ... park can afford to present two (2) Holiday makeovers every year, while MK no longer provides any. Also consider that several reliable MK CMs have at one time or another stated that CBJ's guest counts dramtically increases during the Holiday period. It's almost if management is selective in when ridership numbers are important when using the metric to factually support their predetermined initiatives.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 I was once told the cost of swapping out the shows was a very small sum, like under 10 grand. Think about that in the context of exceeding guests expectations!!!
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Hey, you could offer the show as a MVMCP extra and raise the price of a ticket by $10 a head ... and those free cookies ... how about buy them from one of them Dollar Stores after they've expired? Gotta think outside the box as the cliche goes. << Type that up, and submit it as a resume. With genius cost cutting measures like that, you could replace Meg Crofton. >> Yet, Disneyland, a less attended ... so thus, less popular ... park can afford to present two (2) Holiday makeovers every year, while MK no longer provides any. << More than anything else that got me to thinking about this issue. It's obvious because of the repeat guest at DL they feel more obligated to please the locals. It's not a very good reason, but do you think WDW being so much a world wide destination actually hurts it? I know that should not have any influence on quality of show, but it sure seems to. I wonder how the number of AP holders, and DVC owners at WDW stack up against the numbers at DL.
Originally Posted By ChiMike Sure... However I am not advocating for Small World Holiday (As awesome as it is) or for HMH (which I have no problem with, but really have never wanted to see come over to WDW). With less resources available to it, DL has a much tougher burden in keeping a larger local base of guests coming back. WDW Management can't even figure out how to refurbish Space Mountain after 34 years; they wouldn't stand a chance out in Anaheim. Actually, they didn't, many of them failed during DCA's unveiling; some tucking their tales between their legs scampering back to Florida. It's funny that whether it was 1955 or 2005 Disneyland has always innovated with tight resources. Perhaps that's the trick, eh? Perhaps the rumored lean years ahead for WDW will ground things a little bit. I AM looking forward to a lot a well-intentioned refurbishments in Orlando. My point which shouldn't be effected by the dynamic that you raise, Pierce, is that for years they did the Holiday makeover at CBJ. They did it prior to either coast really putting the Holiday season into marketing and decoration overdrive. Now that they are pushing the Christmas season very hard, and now that a (less attended) Disneyland is doing more than ever for Christmas, it seems very backwards to stop doing CBJ's overlay. Especially with the figure that Spirit quoted. Just think of how insignificant 10K is when you're looking at the price per person for the dozen plus Christmas after hours events or the plethora of daytime entertainment in the four parks that most guests walk right by. So much for "changing this here, or keeping the park fresh", huh? Another ol'standby line that is trotted out when it suits management's intentions.
