Originally Posted By magnet History is a little of both, actually. You can't change the past, but that hasn't stopped many from trying!
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>> I prefer broadening my mind to subjective things. Numbers and formulas are boring. Words are more powerful.<<< What he said.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>History is a little of both, actually. You can't change the past, but that hasn't stopped many from trying!<<< Very true. However, interpretation of it, is really what is studied in Upper Level classes.
Originally Posted By dshyates "You can't change the past, but that hasn't stopped many from trying!" History is just what people chose to write down about the past.
Originally Posted By magnet >>>Very true. However, interpretation of it, is really what is studied in Upper Level classes.<<< No, no, no. The interpretation is usually always a part of the discussion, even in high school. Upper level classes are where you MAKE history!
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>>History is just what people chose to write down about the past.<<<<< That's what it used to be. Now, with all that we know, and the increasing ability to see MORE of the past, it's a lot more of interoperation.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>No, no, no. The interpretation is usually always a part of the discussion, even in high school. Upper level classes are where you MAKE history!<<< If you have the right teachers...which, these days are hard to come by.
Originally Posted By dshyates History will ALWAYS be what gets written down about what happened in the past. Just, now it is if it is the "official" documentation or the revisionist documentation.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>you kids need to start endless debates on when the Fantastic Four will have a meet-greet-and-grind at EPCOT!<<< If Susan Storm is there and available, that might attract me back to WDW. Maybe.
Originally Posted By libertysquare76 <If you have the right teachers...which, these days are hard to come by> Have a history degree and prepared to travel, for the price of a WDW AP in leiu of compensation. Liberty Square76 A History Teacher
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Numbers and formulas are boring. Words are more powerful.>> Without numbers and formulas, we wouldn't be nearly anywhere we are today. You can't forget that either. Technology shaped human civilization just as much as words have.
Originally Posted By demderedoseguys ^ ...like the fact that we wouldn't have the internet to get our thoughts and ideas out there on forums like LP
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>>History will ALWAYS be what gets written down about what happened in the past. Just, now it is if it is the "official" documentation or the revisionist documentation.<<< I don't think I'm talking about revisionist documentation, here, dshyates, no offense....... There is always new information, and new sources found, as we get better at finding out about the past through new technology, finding new writings, and new artifacts, and new sources that offer new points of view. Revisionist History is not that. Revisionist History is practiced by idiotic people that are ignorant enough to believe what they say is true, and try and preach that, while ignoring the hard sought, and widely accepted facts. Such as saying the Holocaust did not occur. That's revisionist History. That's foolishness. A real Historian ignores that, and accepts that new information, and "new" History can always change the perspective of today's perception of the past, if the proper information and proof is found.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Have a history degree and prepared to travel, for the price of a WDW AP in leiu of compensation. Liberty Square76 A History Teacher<<< Oh, yeah...Love to travel. Wish we could, more often. (Blame my AC...it's depriving me of exploring Boston later in the summer...)
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Without numbers and formulas, we wouldn't be nearly anywhere we are today. You can't forget that either. Technology shaped human civilization just as much as words have.<<< Who are you, Judi Dench?! Should we thank the Phonecians?! ;-) In all seriousness, you are right. I'm just happy not to study them anymore.
Originally Posted By njDizfan Come on Spirit I know you miss our MAGICal threads on Disney wages disolving into an arguement about socialized political manifesto and mug battles over the philosphical absolution of truth. Maybe if LP had user friendly smileys we could bring over martin,raven,tirian and some other sane people.
Originally Posted By njDizfan Well sometimes different views are a good thing. They can spark some interesting discussions. Sometimes they can be absurd and annoying. Often I have noticed that discussion here ranges on shades of gray within the same spectrum.