Originally Posted By Sweeper You know the enterprise ride in many amusement parks that start out spinning in a circle then the whole thing is lifed into the air and you're going upside-down multiple times? SO are the forces on Mission Space worse than that?
Originally Posted By fkurucz ^^Perhaps not, but the not so healthy can see it spin and spin and decide to pass.
Originally Posted By monorailblue Re <<then I think it's pretty stupid not to pay attention>> I didn't say ignoring signs is "smart" or advisable. I just said people do it. They are omnipresent anymore. Further, when you see a "Stop" sign while driving, you don't take the time to drive it. You've seen it before and you just react. When you've seen safety warnings enough, you just naturally start to pay no attention--witness safety demonstrations in planes. I watch them because I like to observe human nature, and the differences between one person's act and anothers are curious to me. But I certainly don't watch because I'm attentive to floor lighting, emergency doors and all that. My mind just assumes I already know the drill, so to speak. Anyhow, an Attraction on the scale of Pirates or Mansion, and with a similar lack of *mechanical* thrills (while overloading sense-thrills and imagination-thrills) would be incredibly well received, I warrant, if done with the same quality, cleverness, sophistication, and grandeur. And the young and young at heart could and would all participate. That is when Disney theme parks are at their very best.
Originally Posted By cstephens monorailblue wrote: > My mind just assumes I already know the drill, so to speak. Right. Because presumably, you've been on a plane before and heard "the drill" and are already familiar with it. But if you go white-water rafting for the first time and assume that the safety spiel is the same as for airplanes and so then don't feel that you need to pay attention then, wouldn't that be pretty silly and ridiculous? Wouldn't you know that you're going on something you've never been before and so need more information than for something you're already familiar with? /cs
Originally Posted By gadzuux >> an attraction on the scale of Pirates or Mansion ... would be incredibly well received, I warrant, if done with the same quality, cleverness, sophistication, and grandeur. << Could be, but it's hard to tell. They haven't done one in about twenty years. 'Great Movie Ride' is the most recent example I can think of. (And I don't particularly care for it.)
Originally Posted By Disney Joy I wonder if people who are getting sick or die, if it was there first and only time on the ride ? Could they have gone before and went again and it was too much. Not sure just wondering.....about all of them. I went on Space Mountain before and it was ok, but this last year - I thought I would pass out. Needless to say - I won't be going on that thing again, but TOT does nothing to me at all. I can't do the roller coaster stuff either. Unfortunately ~ sometime you may think you can handle something because of how you handle another - but that could be the day your body say no.
Originally Posted By SweetieangelM14 I love POC, but without thrill rides I wouldn't be quite as excited to go to Disneyland or Walt Disney World. I think that most of the time, it is your own fault if you get hurt on a ride. I went on mission space with my sister. We decided to go on the mild version first so that we would know what it would be like. Before we went on the real version we asked a CM how bad the ride was. We also paid attention to the warning sides. My brother gets motion sickness so he didn't go. My mom hates thrill rides, so she didn't go. My sister and I went on it and were fine. The classic rides are wonderful, but the new thrill rides are awesome. I can't imagince WDW without Rock n' Roller Coaster, or DCA without Screamin.
Originally Posted By monorailblue <<But if you go white-water rafting for the first time and assume that the safety spiel is the same as for airplanes and so then don't feel that you need to pay attention then, wouldn't that be pretty silly and ridiculous? Wouldn't you know that you're going on something you've never been before and so need more information than for something you're already familiar with?>> Interesting comparison, but going on a theme park ride is hardly akin to a first-time-in-your-life river rafting venture, or skydiving, or cliff diving, or hang gliding or something like that. Who goes to Disneyland never having been on any sort of amusement park type ride? Maybe there are a few, but they are incredibly few and far between. Also, most Disneylanders each day are return visitors, and many of those are second or third generation Disneyland visitors--so the Disney way of entertaining (historically, short on physical thrills) is something well known and, dare I suggest it?, expected and anticipated. Anyhow, there's always Knott's with its supposed "165" offerings . . . .
Originally Posted By cstephens monorailblue wrote: > Who goes to Disneyland never having been on any sort of amusement park type ride? Ummm, not everyone has a major theme park sitting in their backyard. A friend is at WDW right now with some people who've never been on anything more than at a local carnival. And they're having a great time. And he's telling them about the rides ahead of time so they don't get startled by something they don't want to be. And if anyone's been going to Disneyland for any number of years, then they've been able to do thrill rides for quite some time now. And know the difference between a thrill ride and a non-thrill ride and know that even not all thrill rides are the same. /cs
Originally Posted By Mermaid Princess I totally agree with you! I rode tower of terror and it seemed so undisney. I closed my eyes the whole time in fear.... I don't ever want to go on it again. I like roller coasters, but I go to six flags for that. But, I do that far less often than I go to a disney theme park... Besides out of all the coasters I have ever been on in my entire life space mountain is my favorite. It's beautiful, fun, and always plasters a smile on my face. Sometimes I even giggle... That is something that six flags type roller coasters have never been able to do to me. I just end up getting a head ache... No fun. Boo to scary rides at disney.
Originally Posted By moondevil YOU'RE ALL INSANE! There's a special ride for you! It's called a bench! Quiet already!
Originally Posted By moondevil I expect that last post to be ADMIN'd. But I'd do it again in a heartbeat. Nyeah!
Originally Posted By Disney Joy Oh I love TOT and hate Rollercoasters. Six Flags ~ I went as a kid, hardly ever enjoyed it. Amazingly I never knew about DL or WDW until I was a grown woman. I had a bad mommie. NA she is sweet,and the BEST ~ being single a mom maybe she couldn't afford it. OH well ~ I'm making up for all those lost years. LOL
Originally Posted By cstephens I agree that if all you're interested in is thrill rides, then there are definitely other places to go. But that doesn't mean all of Disneyland has to be sanitized. One of the things I love about Disneyland is that I can ride Small World and then Space Mountain, and then maybe go on Indy and then hit all the rides at Fantasyland. It's the wide range of rides that makes Disneyland work really well as a family park because pretty much everyone can find a few things to do that really suit them. /cs
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder I think possibly the original intent of post 1 got lost in some bickering here. Basically, it would be nice/great if some new Disney attractions/re-designs/refurbs in the future weren't so dependent on thrills and scares and had more of an entertaining story instead. Speaking for myself, a good portion of DL/DCA is indefinitely off limits to me due to the type of ride or added enhancements. Last year, I had 13 attacks of vertigo in the first four months of the year. These were violent attacks lasting several hours, and some began while I was asleep. Some started while I was in court or at my desk in my office. Since then, I haven't been 100% yet, but no more violent attacks. I went on Space Mountain a couple of weeks ago, and learned I can't go on it anymore. The intensified effects on the first climb triggered a mild surge of vertigo, and I had to close my eyes the res tof the ride to avoid any more increased sensation. So, no Space Mtn, Screamin', Indy, Star Tours, etc., anything roller coaster or quick, jerky motions. So, as I approach 50, speaking for us so afflicted, it would be nice to see a return to these types of rides. Finding Nemo looks promising. I think maybe post 1 was trying to convey a little of this type of sentiment.
Originally Posted By CrouchingTigger SPP: can you handle PotC OK? I absolutely agree with post 1. Way back in the '70's I explained to people that, while other parks (like Magic Mountain) were fun, Disneyland was about things to *look* at - the details that came through only after you had seen something several times. (Though now we've upgraded that concept to "story", my 12-13 year old brain was best able to describe it this way.)
Originally Posted By trekkeruss I understand the sentiment. I do think Disney tried to make a modern non-thrill AA ride: Sinbad at TDS. I think it is brilliant, but the public hasn't taken a shine to it. While some of us who read the Tokyo board have discussed the reason(s) why it hasn't... no thrill at all, unfamiliar story, lack of a theme song, poor location... it's possible too that guests really _don't_ care so much about a richly detailed, AA filled attraction.
Originally Posted By TMICHAEL Good job on Post #35 cstephens, exactly why Disney is so popular and head and shoulders above all other parks. I'm really sorry if some folks don't like thrill rides but why jack the rest of us who love both, by whining that Disney sould tone it down? >>>Basically, it would be nice/great if some new Disney attractions/re-designs/refurbs in the future weren't so dependent on thrills and scares<<< I give you Buzz, Pooh, Pirates, Bugs Land, Playhouse Disney, Monsters Inc., Nemo subs, and Goofy's Playhouse area as a small list of just the Disnyland resort alone. What more do you want?! Without any thrill factor at Disney, then the families that are so coveted by Disney will be lost as they age. In the crowded SoCal amusement arena, Knotts and Magic Mountain are just waiting to snatch them up. It's just bad buisness if Disney didn't keep up with the competition.
